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Spare us, Art. You raised the subject of Sup. Norby’s personal life when you had no business doing so, and floated a lot of sketchy rumors about him which were obviously untrue. Maybe next time you will call someone before blogging that they were drunk in public or living in their office.
I spoke with Chris yesterday and today, as well. He said many of the same things to me, but he also didn’t waive it off as a non-issue as you imply or say it wasn’t Janet’s fault.
Well this is a far cry from an apology but it is growth for you Art. Good to see you do a little brown nosing to cover your butt!
Matt/Jubal,
Give me a break. If the shoe were on the other foot, which is to say if Janet had been the one sleeping at her office or going through a divorce, you would have blown that up on your blog. She cannot do anything without you attacking her. The same goes for the Blue County crowd.
I don’t know why Chris did not tell you that it wasn’t Janet’s fault. But that is EXACTLY what he told me. And he agreed that this was more Mauk’s issue than hers. If you don’t like his answers, take it up with him.
BTW, you were amongst the first to slam me for this story, but you blogged the names of victims of molestation! Nothing I have EVER DONE will ever compare to that. I don’t know how you can even show your face around here after that episode.
Good lord I should have expected this.
As a matter of fact Art, if the shoe was on the other foot, the LAST thing Matt would have done would have been to CREATE unsubstantiated rumors about Janet WITHOUT asking her first about them. How do I know this? Because Matt has a TRACK RECORD of GOOD JOURNALISM, which includes checking his sources and presenting the other side of the story, even when he disagrees with it. On the other hand you have a track record of the OPPOSITE, which is to create/spread rumors without checking the source OR the other side of the story.
Now, the molestation incident has NOTHING to do with this, BUT the matter of fact is that Matt APOLOGIZED for his mistake which is MUCH more than you are EVER willing to do when you create rumors, spin the truth, and flat out lie to justify your point. Face it Art! You have NO journalistic standards. YOUR END ALWAYS JUSTIFY YOUR MEANS.
Ok ok, now you’re going to claim that “this is a blog, not a newspaper, we don’t practice journalism here”. Yes you’re right! So stick to satire, because as far as presenting FACTS, you have been proven time and time again to NOT HAVE THEM.
I have sat here and watched you attack good public officials like Norby and Van Tran, SLANDERING their reputations for no other reason but your personal vendetta gainst them. I have done so quietly, but NO LONGER. You have stepped over the line and I will now make it my personal vendetta against YOU to point out your inconcistencies, your lies, your slanderous rumor spreading, and worst of all, your blind support for corrupt politicians who ACTUALLY deserve to be scrutinized.
I hope you apologized to Supervisor Norby for the ridiculous statements you made on your last post. I bet you didn’t. I bet Janet (your “pajarito”) didn’t either, but I never expected her to. I guess I never expected you to either, but one can only hope.
By the way, how do you like CAPS LOCKS? Annoying isn’t it?
D’Anaconda,
Not nearly as annoying as you.
Muy bien Arturo.
Nada mas que un falso latino que necessitas atencion.
D’anaconda,
Actually, it should read “necesita” not “necessitas.” And the “l” in “Latino” should be capitalized.
I don’t know where you get that I am a false Latino. My parents both came to this country from Mexico. I grew up speaking only Spanish and had to learn English in school.
As for wanting attention, to be honest with you I wish I could walk away from all this. But I feel a responsibility to keep the Orange Juice going. Unlike you Red County GOP hacks, we are trying to foster positive social change. You guys just seem to be on a mission to stuff your wallets and hire your friends.
Give me a break. If the shoe were on the other foot, which is to say if Janet had been the one sleeping at her office or going through a divorce, you would have blown that up on your blog. She cannot do anything without you attacking her. The same goes for the Blue County crowd.
An utterly predictable response. It’s getting to the point where you know what Art will say before he even says it.
Art, don’t bring me down to your level. I don’t practice your brand of smashmouth/sleaze blogging. Not even when my identity was a secret. It’s not like I don’t hear these kinds of rumors. I just don’t post them. You do it to hurt people.
You can’t even manage an apology. But it’s interesting to note you try to excuse your post by claiming I would have done what you tacitly admit to have been a crappy thing.
I don’t know why Chris did not tell you that it wasn’t Janet’s fault. But that is EXACTLY what he told me.
Because that’s what you want to hear. Chris said he doesn’t fault Janet for trying to get extra staff — not that it wasn’t her fault.
BTW, you were amongst the first to slam me for this story, but you blogged the names of victims of molestation!
“Story”? Art, that wasn’t a story. You’re post was more like high schoolers passing notes in class.
As I explained to my readers, I made a mistake. My intent was not to publish those names. And the minute it was brought to my attention, I fixed it and apologized.
You purposely posted salacious, personally injurious rumors of which you had no evidence or substantiation, with the clear intent of retaliating against Norby for calling attention to Janet’s tapping the HCA budget for her office. Still no apology or admission that you screwed up, and highly unlikely we’ll ever see as much.
Nothing I have EVER DONE will ever compare to that. I don’t know how you can even show your face around here after that episode.
I can show my face because I know it was a mistake and I had no intent to hurt anyone. When you hurt — or try to hurt — people with your blog, it’s on purpose. And you’re proud that you do that.
Matt/Jubal,
Are you kidding? Even if you had not posted those names, the very concept of the “Friends of Urell” was offensive. You were supporting a guy who helped cover up for molesters! What honor is there in that?
As for my conversation with Chris, I don’t recall you being there. Unless you are bugging my cell phone, you have no idea what we discussed. So don’t try to pretend otherwise.
You are a fine one to preach to me. Just look at your record this past few years. Supporting Mike Carona. Supporting Chriss Street. Taking pride in defeating the OC Measure D, and thereby depriving the OC Fire Authority of much-needed equipment. Those homes in the Santiago Canyon could have been saved if not for you and your fellow GOP hacks. Creating the “Friends of John Urell,” and posting the names of molestation victims in the process.
Face it Matt. You and your fellow Reeps have wrought more harm against the people of Orange County than I ever will. You can try to run away from your record, but it will cling to you forever.
Typical, Art. Pivot, change the subject and attack. I’m amazed it took you so long to drag Measure D, Carona and Street into it.
And you talking about honor? LOL
Matt/Jubal,
What do you know about honor? You lied to all of us about your identity – you even spoke about “Jubal” in the third person. And you still use that name as if it were a badge of honor.
It is a badge of dishonor. I don’t read your posts to find out the truth, but rather to see what the OC GOP machine wants us to believe.
BTW, you HAVE used your blog to attack someone. You have been attacking Supervisor Janet Nguyen since before she was elected. I don’t expect that to change.
Face it Matt. You are nothing more than a partisan hack. If you are OK with that, great. But you don’t see me arguing with you on your blog, do you?
Trust me, I have better things to do than spar with you. Are things so boring on your blog that you have to spend all day here?
You lied to all of us about your identity – you even spoke about “Jubal” in the third person. And you still use that name as if it were a badge of honor.
I used a pseudonym, Art — just like your Little Saigon Insider blogger does. Does that make him/her a liar, as well?
BTW, you HAVE used your blog to attack someone. Of course I’ve criticized people on OC Blog, and often harshly. But I don’t write sleazy posts about personal lives. You do. And you do it in order to hurt them and on the basis of flimsy rumors.
But you don’t see me arguing with you on your blog, do you?
Thank you for elevating the level of discourse on OC Blog by your absence.
Trust me, I have better things to do than spar with you. Are things so boring on your blog that you have to spend all day here?
Translation: Art’s running out of ways to change the subject and may actually have to address why he posted those sleazy rumors.
A few weeks ago Red County change the format/look of their site and I quit reading. It’s a lot harder to find local posts and respond to them now. It’s interesting that Jubal spends a lot more time reading/posting on Orange Juice. I wonder if I’m not the only one who quit reading R.C. and perhaps this is Jubal’s way of trying to drag a few readers back??? Any thoughts Art?
“Actually, it should read “necesita” not “necessitas.” And the “l” in “Latino” should be capitalized.”
Oops, I guess the free online translation tool isn’t as good as it claims to be.
“I don’t know where you get that I am a false Latino.”
You are a false Latino because while claiming to be doing good work for their community, you continue to intentionally make things worse for them.
“As for wanting attention, to be honest with you I wish I could walk away from all this.”
Yeah, ok Art.
“Unlike you Red County GOP hacks, we are trying to foster positive social change. You guys just seem to be on a mission to stuff your wallets and hire your friends.”
I don’t see how working in politics disqualifies anyone from pointing out your absurdities. You do nothing for social change Art. If anything you make matters worse.
Anyway, Matt has done a good enough job of embarrassing you in this post. Enough that you’ve felt the need to post anonymous again. I’m done with this thread. I can’t wait for your next ludicrous slanderous post against anyone who stands in the way of your agenda.
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The hiding of expenses devoted to support one or all of the Board of Supervisors in another budget is nothing new. The full cost of funding the Board offices is truly hidden that way. Most of the extra cost is buried in the CEO Department budget, but not all. The current maneuver just came into the spotlight, that’s all. Now the public begins to see how it is done thanks to this little disclosure. And, this technique is not limited to County government – most every City Manager knows how to play the game too when it comes to support the City Council. And, why not, these electeds are there at the will of the people, right?
Supervisor Norby was the great educator, was he not? Back to the classroom when term limits kick in!