May 15, 2008
BREAKING NEWS: California Supreme Court Overturns Gay Marriage Ban
Posted by: Sarah Michelle Spinosa : Category:
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I just received this in my email from the L.A. Times.
I’ll be following the story closely.
Stay tuned for more on the issue as information is released.
SMS
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May 15th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
No more discrimination! Hooray!
May 15th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
another ruling by far left liberal judges .. the people of calif voted on this a few years ago and it won by a landslide . but 4 san francisco judges have more power than all the people who voted for this what a shame ..
May 15th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Sorry, Great One, but we live in a representative democracy, where the judiciary can occasionally step in and say the will of the majority was unconstitutional. If it weren’t for irritating little wrinkles like that which our Founding Fathers cursed us with, we’d still have Jim Crow.
So, as the ineffable “Moustache of Understanding” Tom Friedman said in a different context, SUCK. ON. THAT.
May 15th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I haven’t even started writing my analysis yet (I’m still working on the stupid database) and the constitutional arguments have already begun. Heeeeere we go!
SMS
May 15th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Sorry to burst yet another of your bubbles, O Great One, but a few minutes of research before you posted would have revealed that of the seven judges on the California Supreme Court, six were appointed by Republican governors (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/080514/us/usreport_rights_california_gays_dc). And that “cautious” and “conservative” are two of the adjectives most frequently applied to the High Court.
May 15th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Paul,
You stole my thunder!
These judges stood up for liberty and equalrights.
They were in fact appointed (six of seven) by Republicans.
Even the superfical blowhards on LA Radio are applauding this ruling (and believe it or not some of them are even in “domestic relationships!).
May 16th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
well enjoy your short victory. prop 22 61 percent of the people said no to gay marriage a few judges said yes . in novenber we the PEOPLE will have the final say so when we draw up a ballott int . to stop judges from doing this stuff and it will pass with flying colors just like prop 22 did .
May 16th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Well, GRATE ONE, we shall just see, won’t we. Attitudes have changed a lot these past eight years, and November will bring a lot of young Barack voters to the polls, and young folks these days just - damn! - don’t seem to be all that homophobic, what’s up with that?
I’ll leave you with a couple paragraphs from the REAL Great One, Glennzilla (http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/15/california/index.html)
…equally misinformed will be anyone arguing that this is some sort of an example of judges “overriding” the democratic will of the people. The people of California, through their representatives in the State legislature, twice approved a bill to provide for the inclusion of same-sex couples in their “marriage” laws, but both times, the bill was vetoed by California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who said when he vetoed it that he believed “it is up to the state Supreme Court” to decide the issue.
Polls have found substantial support for gay marriage in California, with dramatic trends toward favoring gay marriage. While there was a referendum passed in 2000 limiting marriage only to opposite-sex couples, five years later (in 2005), California’s state legislature became the first in the country to enact a same-sex marriage law without a court order compelling them to do so. Thus, even leaving aside constitutional guarantees (which, in a constitutional republic, trump public opinion), today’s ruling is consistent with that state’s democratic processes and public opinion, not a subversion of it.
May 16th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Great one,
This is a new electorate. Your gay-bashing skills of 2000 may not be as strong as you like. Even the Republican Gov says- let gays marry. Good thing for us, young people tend to be more tolerant and should vote in great numbers to rid us of Reps and cave dwellers like you. God, I hope you don’t have any gays kids
May 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Well, I am sorry too. Sorry that your homophobic ass shares the planet with me. I dont care how many people you gather under your tent, how many petitions you write, how many votes you scare up with your apocolyptic prophesys. You have not shown a causal linkage between not discriminating against homosexuals and any sort of dire consequences yet you continue to threaten the dire consequences.
The rhetoric of discrimination has always sounded similar regardless of the intended target of the discrimination and the anti-homosexual, anti-immigrant rhetoric of today is similar to that used against women, black people, migrant workers, any new wave of immigration; Irish, Italian, Asian, Middle Eastern, all felt the sting of discrimination from the mostly white ruling class, dominant culture of America.
You’re not fooling anyone with your “christian sanctity of marriage” b.s. All of you have been married more than once, have lied, cheated or stolen or all three at some time, and pick up this mantle not because its a christian ideal but because it strikes out at someone you dont understand but you fear. At least own it.
May 16th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
I agree that the electorate has changed, and the right wing’s discriminatory amendment might actually go down in defeat. I was involved in the volunteer effort against the right wing’s paid petitioners, and was pleasantly surprised by the support our effort received from young people. The rudest response (”I hate f***ots!”)came from a very elderly man. In other words, even if the far right wins this battle, they will eventually lose the war.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Equal Rights should be for everyone.
It was long overdue.