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	<title>Comments on: Santa Ana&#8217;s pension spike now bearing bitter fruit</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, you should take a look at this Breitbart post on tea parties and where they should go now.

http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/21/code-tea-tea-parties-go-home-all-politics-is-local/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, you should take a look at this Breitbart post on tea parties and where they should go now.</p>
<p><a href="http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/21/code-tea-tea-parties-go-home-all-politics-is-local/" rel="nofollow">http://biggovernment.com/2009/12/21/code-tea-tea-parties-go-home-all-politics-is-local/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent story, Art.

Instapundit picked it up, too

http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent story, Art.</p>
<p>Instapundit picked it up, too</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/" rel="nofollow">http://www.pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: cali</title>
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		<dc:creator>cali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 09:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the police get more.  The SAPD already recieves 50% of the the cities budget.  Compared to other cities the same size in Ca, Sacramento, San Diego, Oakland and Anaheim it is very inflated.  Those cities range between 32% to 40%.  If they want to help the budget they should start there.  Of course the PD is one of the most influential organizations in the city.  They even get CDBG money, they used that for their new building and asked for more this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the police get more.  The SAPD already recieves 50% of the the cities budget.  Compared to other cities the same size in Ca, Sacramento, San Diego, Oakland and Anaheim it is very inflated.  Those cities range between 32% to 40%.  If they want to help the budget they should start there.  Of course the PD is one of the most influential organizations in the city.  They even get CDBG money, they used that for their new building and asked for more this year.</p>
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		<title>By: cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 04:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pension entitlements  have been a sleeping monster for some time.  

The state counties and cities all put them into place with legal votes and negotiations.

Just vote to take a five year hiatus from contributions, the funds have plenty of cash to meet their needs, right?  And if that can’t be vote to happen, then cancel the plans outright, buy annuities for the current retires and move the balance in to the Social Security System. 

Funding of these retirement systems has always been a percentage of the then current pay (wages) and the final payouts are based on inflated final year salaries.  Recalculated all those pensions based  the same way SS payments are based.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pension entitlements  have been a sleeping monster for some time.  </p>
<p>The state counties and cities all put them into place with legal votes and negotiations.</p>
<p>Just vote to take a five year hiatus from contributions, the funds have plenty of cash to meet their needs, right?  And if that can’t be vote to happen, then cancel the plans outright, buy annuities for the current retires and move the balance in to the Social Security System. </p>
<p>Funding of these retirement systems has always been a percentage of the then current pay (wages) and the final payouts are based on inflated final year salaries.  Recalculated all those pensions based  the same way SS payments are based.</p>
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