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	<title>Comments on: Jose Solorio backed GOP candidates but now he wants to help the Democrats</title>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93195</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point Art is trying to make is that if Jose Solorio is so concerned about getting Democrats elected, perhaps he should try supporting Democrats running for office instead of Republicans.

The GOP does a good job of cultivating a farm team of candidates by helping them along at the school board and city council levels.  When an assembly seat or senate seat opens up these candidates are ready to move up.

The DPOC is not very proactive in this area.  It does not help when our local Democrat is supporting Republicans for these lower level seats as Solorio did in the last election.

Solorio&#039;s campaign school focuses on electing Democrats.  A good start would be for him to support Democrats.

Anyone who believes that Rob Richardson, a Republican, was the best candidate for the SAUSD board needs their head examined.

Richardson is a longtime board member who has overseen the destruction of the local school system.  Any of the candidates, regardless of race would have been a better choice.

Art&#039;s criticism of Solorio&#039;s endorsement of Richardson is well directed and well deserved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point Art is trying to make is that if Jose Solorio is so concerned about getting Democrats elected, perhaps he should try supporting Democrats running for office instead of Republicans.</p>
<p>The GOP does a good job of cultivating a farm team of candidates by helping them along at the school board and city council levels.  When an assembly seat or senate seat opens up these candidates are ready to move up.</p>
<p>The DPOC is not very proactive in this area.  It does not help when our local Democrat is supporting Republicans for these lower level seats as Solorio did in the last election.</p>
<p>Solorio&#8217;s campaign school focuses on electing Democrats.  A good start would be for him to support Democrats.</p>
<p>Anyone who believes that Rob Richardson, a Republican, was the best candidate for the SAUSD board needs their head examined.</p>
<p>Richardson is a longtime board member who has overseen the destruction of the local school system.  Any of the candidates, regardless of race would have been a better choice.</p>
<p>Art&#8217;s criticism of Solorio&#8217;s endorsement of Richardson is well directed and well deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art,

If you were attacking the quality of the candidates, their record, etc, that would be more than fair.  If you are critical of Solorio supporting Richardson because he&#039;s an idiot, say that and explain it.

Your post simply blasts him for stepping outside of party and racial lines.  Reread it.  Go after Solorio if you have an issue with his policies, record, etc, not because at times he thinks for himself and goes outside of his own party and race.

The post is about that Richardson is a white Republican...and that Lynnette Verino&#039;s opponent was a non-latino....period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art,</p>
<p>If you were attacking the quality of the candidates, their record, etc, that would be more than fair.  If you are critical of Solorio supporting Richardson because he&#8217;s an idiot, say that and explain it.</p>
<p>Your post simply blasts him for stepping outside of party and racial lines.  Reread it.  Go after Solorio if you have an issue with his policies, record, etc, not because at times he thinks for himself and goes outside of his own party and race.</p>
<p>The post is about that Richardson is a white Republican&#8230;and that Lynnette Verino&#8217;s opponent was a non-latino&#8230;.period.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93193</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again let me reiterate this, Art is not a racist.  I have never heard him disparage someone based on race.

I have seen Art welcome people of all races into his home and treat them all with dignity and respect.

If he were so racist as you folks claim, why would he welcome us white folks into his home?

If he hates white&#039;s why would he ask us to sit at his table and eat his food?

He has nothing to gain by it.  He is not now, nor has he ever been racist against white people.

To the contrary, when I took issue with Art is when he was alligned with the immigrant bashing and gay bashing crowd.

Art joined in with Santa Ana&#039;s racist cabal in their &quot;lynching&quot; of Nativo Lopez.

Would a Mexican racist who hate white folks do that?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again let me reiterate this, Art is not a racist.  I have never heard him disparage someone based on race.</p>
<p>I have seen Art welcome people of all races into his home and treat them all with dignity and respect.</p>
<p>If he were so racist as you folks claim, why would he welcome us white folks into his home?</p>
<p>If he hates white&#8217;s why would he ask us to sit at his table and eat his food?</p>
<p>He has nothing to gain by it.  He is not now, nor has he ever been racist against white people.</p>
<p>To the contrary, when I took issue with Art is when he was alligned with the immigrant bashing and gay bashing crowd.</p>
<p>Art joined in with Santa Ana&#8217;s racist cabal in their &#8220;lynching&#8221; of Nativo Lopez.</p>
<p>Would a Mexican racist who hate white folks do that?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: the great one</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93191</link>
		<dc:creator>the great one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no sean but you dont post crazy racist things on here like art does . if their is someone who disagrees with you or does not think like you i dont think you go off the deep end calling everyone racist or haters . people have different thoughts and feelings for poster mr freedom he happened to have a different opinion than art what does he do GOES OFF BY CALLING HIM A REDNECK MEXICAN HATER .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no sean but you dont post crazy racist things on here like art does . if their is someone who disagrees with you or does not think like you i dont think you go off the deep end calling everyone racist or haters . people have different thoughts and feelings for poster mr freedom he happened to have a different opinion than art what does he do GOES OFF BY CALLING HIM A REDNECK MEXICAN HATER .</p>
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		<title>By: Sean H. Mill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean H. Mill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the 2006 Santa Ana city council election Art, a Latino, supported Thomas Gordon, George Collins and Evangeline Gawronski, all Anglos.

I, an Anglo, supported Latino candidates. Does that make me a racist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 2006 Santa Ana city council election Art, a Latino, supported Thomas Gordon, George Collins and Evangeline Gawronski, all Anglos.</p>
<p>I, an Anglo, supported Latino candidates. Does that make me a racist?</p>
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		<title>By: the great one</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93184</link>
		<dc:creator>the great one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>art your a fake  mr freedom nailed it we all know your a racist . all the history of all your post and name calling to people that dont agree with you . you call them haters , racist . rednecks its all a yawn now like the little boy named art who cried wolf  . you can write anything on here . we know whats in your heart by the things you write and do .you call me a rep you dont even know me . you have no clue what i like and dont like heres one for you art i am pro choice haaaa yet you call yourself a dts  haaaaaaa thats funny all of your issues tilt toward far left views so we know what side your really on . some people come on here and they disagree with views that fine =free country. but they do it in a nice respectful way  BUT YOU  . YOU ATTACK THEM AS LOWER CLASS PEOPLE , THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE . HAVE NO IDEA .  NAME CALLING .look in the mirror pal when it comes to no class .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>art your a fake  mr freedom nailed it we all know your a racist . all the history of all your post and name calling to people that dont agree with you . you call them haters , racist . rednecks its all a yawn now like the little boy named art who cried wolf  . you can write anything on here . we know whats in your heart by the things you write and do .you call me a rep you dont even know me . you have no clue what i like and dont like heres one for you art i am pro choice haaaa yet you call yourself a dts  haaaaaaa thats funny all of your issues tilt toward far left views so we know what side your really on . some people come on here and they disagree with views that fine =free country. but they do it in a nice respectful way  BUT YOU  . YOU ATTACK THEM AS LOWER CLASS PEOPLE , THEY DONT HAVE A CLUE . HAVE NO IDEA .  NAME CALLING .look in the mirror pal when it comes to no class .</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93180</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20,

Really?  I just today posted a story endorsing Loretta Sanchez for Governor.  I endorsed three Latinas for the SAUSD School Board last year.  I co-endorsed Michele Martinez and George Collins for SA Mayor.  I have a long history of supporting women for political office.

It is true that I do not support racist Republican women who run for office, such as Mimi Walters.  

You say you are a Libertarian but you are also DTS?  Perhaps you should get off the fence.

The beauty of the Libertarian Party is that we espouse freedom.  We are each free to support what we want.  I am fiscally conservative and socially progressive.  I find the Libertarian Party to be a good fit for me.

Like the not so great one, you too appear to have problems comprehending English.  My response to #16 was very clear and concise.  I back the best candidate.  I back non Latinos against hacks like Solorio.  In fact it is ironic that you are saying I am a racist when the point of this post was to rip Solorio.  If I was so raza, wouldn&#039;t I be supporting him by rote?

As I said before, you ought to call yourself &quot;Mr. Redneck,&quot; or how about &quot;Mr. Hater?&quot;  That would make more sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20,</p>
<p>Really?  I just today posted a story endorsing Loretta Sanchez for Governor.  I endorsed three Latinas for the SAUSD School Board last year.  I co-endorsed Michele Martinez and George Collins for SA Mayor.  I have a long history of supporting women for political office.</p>
<p>It is true that I do not support racist Republican women who run for office, such as Mimi Walters.  </p>
<p>You say you are a Libertarian but you are also DTS?  Perhaps you should get off the fence.</p>
<p>The beauty of the Libertarian Party is that we espouse freedom.  We are each free to support what we want.  I am fiscally conservative and socially progressive.  I find the Libertarian Party to be a good fit for me.</p>
<p>Like the not so great one, you too appear to have problems comprehending English.  My response to #16 was very clear and concise.  I back the best candidate.  I back non Latinos against hacks like Solorio.  In fact it is ironic that you are saying I am a racist when the point of this post was to rip Solorio.  If I was so raza, wouldn&#8217;t I be supporting him by rote?</p>
<p>As I said before, you ought to call yourself &#8220;Mr. Redneck,&#8221; or how about &#8220;Mr. Hater?&#8221;  That would make more sense.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Freedom</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93177</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Freedom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are quite clear time and again in telling people that either they vote for the &quot;best candidate&quot; - a Latino - or they are haters.

You also have a well documented history against female candidates. You are a misogynist hack.

Your diatribe at describing the &quot;exceptions&quot; to your racist behavior matter not. As a libertarian myself (little l), I can quite clearly say to you &quot;Mr Pedroza you are NO libertarian.&quot;

Some of us have friends who are latino, black, white and asian. It is quite clear to readers you couldnt possibly have that diversity because you dont have any friends!

The rock you crawl under is a dark and cold place for people like you. And the world is better for you to go right back there.

If you really believe that registering as Libertarian makes you Libertarian, then I would task you: 

List the top ten items for the Libertarian Party and where you agree.

I&#039;ve looked at it. You cant agree with more than three.

You know it. I know it. Now your readers know it.

This Decline to State Voter is waiting...

&lt;em&gt;P.S. Thanks Great One&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are quite clear time and again in telling people that either they vote for the &#8220;best candidate&#8221; &#8211; a Latino &#8211; or they are haters.</p>
<p>You also have a well documented history against female candidates. You are a misogynist hack.</p>
<p>Your diatribe at describing the &#8220;exceptions&#8221; to your racist behavior matter not. As a libertarian myself (little l), I can quite clearly say to you &#8220;Mr Pedroza you are NO libertarian.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of us have friends who are latino, black, white and asian. It is quite clear to readers you couldnt possibly have that diversity because you dont have any friends!</p>
<p>The rock you crawl under is a dark and cold place for people like you. And the world is better for you to go right back there.</p>
<p>If you really believe that registering as Libertarian makes you Libertarian, then I would task you: </p>
<p>List the top ten items for the Libertarian Party and where you agree.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at it. You cant agree with more than three.</p>
<p>You know it. I know it. Now your readers know it.</p>
<p>This Decline to State Voter is waiting&#8230;</p>
<p><em>P.S. Thanks Great One</em></p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93176</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18,

Do you have problems comprehending English?  I think I was quite clear in my response to #16.  

Rob Richardson is a lame hack of a politician.  I would vote for a homeless guy over him.  But last year we had a few excellent Latino candidates and I voted for them.  We also had a plethora of lame Latino candidates, like Mike Gonzalez, Roman Reyna and Cecilia Aguinaga.  I did not vote for any of them.

I publicly endorsed a number of non-Latino candidates last year, on this blog, against Latino incumbents.  Your selective memory is worrisome.  Perhaps you should talk to your doctor about early dementia?

As for &quot;Mr. Freedom,&quot; he has made it clear in his past comments that he, like you, is a racist towards Latinos.  I do not tolerate such crap.  Scapegoating Latinos is one of the reasons that your GOP is a dying party.  I am also offended by the use of the word &quot;freedom&quot; in this commenter&#039;s fake moniker.  The only party that values freedom is the Libertarian Party - and we do not scapegoat Latinos.  &quot;Mr. Freedom&quot; should change his anon name to reflect his red-faced values.  He only wants freedom for his fellow white voters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18,</p>
<p>Do you have problems comprehending English?  I think I was quite clear in my response to #16.  </p>
<p>Rob Richardson is a lame hack of a politician.  I would vote for a homeless guy over him.  But last year we had a few excellent Latino candidates and I voted for them.  We also had a plethora of lame Latino candidates, like Mike Gonzalez, Roman Reyna and Cecilia Aguinaga.  I did not vote for any of them.</p>
<p>I publicly endorsed a number of non-Latino candidates last year, on this blog, against Latino incumbents.  Your selective memory is worrisome.  Perhaps you should talk to your doctor about early dementia?</p>
<p>As for &#8220;Mr. Freedom,&#8221; he has made it clear in his past comments that he, like you, is a racist towards Latinos.  I do not tolerate such crap.  Scapegoating Latinos is one of the reasons that your GOP is a dying party.  I am also offended by the use of the word &#8220;freedom&#8221; in this commenter&#8217;s fake moniker.  The only party that values freedom is the Libertarian Party &#8211; and we do not scapegoat Latinos.  &#8220;Mr. Freedom&#8221; should change his anon name to reflect his red-faced values.  He only wants freedom for his fellow white voters.</p>
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		<title>By: the great one</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/07/jose-solorio-backed-gop-candidates-but-now-he-wants-to-help-the-democrats/comment-page-1/#comment-93174</link>
		<dc:creator>the great one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>post 16  his true colors came out . i belive he is a racist . he puts color/race ahead of the other things that make people good  . if candidate a is name smith and has a much better record than candidate b who is name is sanchez take a wild guess wich guy he is picking . look  he called mr freedom  who express his thoughts on here a mexican hater redneck  he does not even know him .the poor guy comes on here and is attacked BY A RACIST =ART P .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>post 16  his true colors came out . i belive he is a racist . he puts color/race ahead of the other things that make people good  . if candidate a is name smith and has a much better record than candidate b who is name is sanchez take a wild guess wich guy he is picking . look  he called mr freedom  who express his thoughts on here a mexican hater redneck  he does not even know him .the poor guy comes on here and is attacked BY A RACIST =ART P .</p>
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		<title>By: Art Pedroza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Pedroza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#16,

Are you saying that Rob Richardson was the best choice for the SAUSD School Board last year?  Really?  Now I am curious.  What are you basing that on?  The SAUSD has been a disaster since he was first elected to their board.  He is an impediment to real change.  

I support the best candidate, period.  And if that candidate is a Latino I consider it a bonus - in a city (Santa Ana) that is majority Latino.

Last year I co-endorsed George Collins and Michele Martinez for Mayor of Santa Ana.  I also voted for and publicly endorsed Jim Walker for the City Council - against Latino incumbent VInce Sarmiento.

I also endorsed Lorraine Prinsky last year, over Latino incumbent Armando Rios, over at the Coast Community College District.

And guess what?  I voted for white guy Cam Mangels last year - against Jose Solorio.

So you see, my record is quite clear.  When I can vote for a qualified Latino over a hack like Richardson, you bet I will do so every time.  And when I can vote for a good white candidate over a hack Latino, you bet that is what I will do, every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#16,</p>
<p>Are you saying that Rob Richardson was the best choice for the SAUSD School Board last year?  Really?  Now I am curious.  What are you basing that on?  The SAUSD has been a disaster since he was first elected to their board.  He is an impediment to real change.  </p>
<p>I support the best candidate, period.  And if that candidate is a Latino I consider it a bonus &#8211; in a city (Santa Ana) that is majority Latino.</p>
<p>Last year I co-endorsed George Collins and Michele Martinez for Mayor of Santa Ana.  I also voted for and publicly endorsed Jim Walker for the City Council &#8211; against Latino incumbent VInce Sarmiento.</p>
<p>I also endorsed Lorraine Prinsky last year, over Latino incumbent Armando Rios, over at the Coast Community College District.</p>
<p>And guess what?  I voted for white guy Cam Mangels last year &#8211; against Jose Solorio.</p>
<p>So you see, my record is quite clear.  When I can vote for a qualified Latino over a hack like Richardson, you bet I will do so every time.  And when I can vote for a good white candidate over a hack Latino, you bet that is what I will do, every time.</p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#1 nailed it here.  Art, this is a ridiculous post.  And yes, it is filled with non-sensical racism.

The post is not about Solorio being an idiot.  That would be a fair post.  This post is exclusively about the fact that Solorio endorsed a Republican over Latino Democrats.

I would label this post as racist...but more than that, I would call it very unintelligent.  It rips away at whatever small bit of credibility Pedroza has.

I often enjoy Art&#039;s posts calling other&#039;s out on bigotry or racsim, etc.  However, I don&#039;t enjoy a post where his own racism and bigotry are expressed.

It is a beautiful thing in this country when people are more concerned about voting for the best candidate than simply by voting down party or racial lines. 

Not good Pedroza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 nailed it here.  Art, this is a ridiculous post.  And yes, it is filled with non-sensical racism.</p>
<p>The post is not about Solorio being an idiot.  That would be a fair post.  This post is exclusively about the fact that Solorio endorsed a Republican over Latino Democrats.</p>
<p>I would label this post as racist&#8230;but more than that, I would call it very unintelligent.  It rips away at whatever small bit of credibility Pedroza has.</p>
<p>I often enjoy Art&#8217;s posts calling other&#8217;s out on bigotry or racsim, etc.  However, I don&#8217;t enjoy a post where his own racism and bigotry are expressed.</p>
<p>It is a beautiful thing in this country when people are more concerned about voting for the best candidate than simply by voting down party or racial lines. </p>
<p>Not good Pedroza.</p>
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