Central to your arguement in post # 10 is the decision in Brown v. the Board of education that Seperate is not equal.

Simply put: whats fair for one is fair for all.

Thats hard for some to swallow. I realize and respect that. But there are plenty of rules and laws that I disagree with but need to be respected.

I spent a considerble amount of my life in a place where one could not choose their faith. it was predominately Roman Catholic, those who even lisetened to the LDS missionaries were villified.

But, you were DEAD ON in #15. These guys (and gals) have no idea what their getting into.

At least you can go to bed at night knowing you tried to warn them!

you are completely right, that is why i stay at home, it is hard for me, because i love to work and use my brain. But it is not about me, its about making a home for my kids and being a wife to my husband. Thats what makes a marriage!

Jim, I think the argument that people are sue happy against churches is just an excuse. Equal protections is what it is all about. I know *I* certainly would not want to be married in a church that I felt unwelcome at. Religious ceremonies are not the last word in legal protections that ALL citizens deserve.

Not people, but left wing groups, that will, with out a doub’t come out like; “flys round shite!”.
The ACLU is the greatest threat, i can just see them drooling at the mouth for a chance to sue churches left and right!
Why not call it a gay union with all the legal rights of marriage, even Obama, has approved this. But the gay activist’s want is all or nothing, but the truth is that Two men or two women are not equal to a man and women creating a normal family structure!

I will be the first one to say, that i have seen great gay parents, but, naturally the best family structure is a father and a mother!

So their is two reason’s i think:

1. legally it will be a disaster

2. it will take a structure that is solid, if done right, and fragment it!. And believe me, we can already see what happens when the family structure is not solid, just have a look at what is happening in Santa Ana!. What is happening within the black community with 80% unwed mother’s and dead beat dads!

But how can that be right either? Now if someone else wants to publically declare thier committment they cannot.

Of course there is the option of moving to Canada or a few other countries.

43 years is a long time and it is tragic that they ended up apart after so many years. My parents where together over 50 years, we were not rich or powerful. They believed in working and struggling together to make a home. My sister and I certainly did not make it easy at times and they were not perfect either. But the key was that the love and committment to each other came 1st.

Perhaps, our focus on making money, acheiving a position with a great sounding name or acheiving a position of power are greater threats to marriage than anything else.

Jim, I think the argument that people are sue happy against churches is just an excuse. Equal protections is what it is all about. I know *I* certainly would not want to be married in a church that I felt unwelcome at. Religious ceremonies are not the last word in legal protections that ALL citizens deserve.

Best to you and your partner, btw! <

2) I have been with my partner for over 12 years and plan to stay around for the rest of my life or his.

3) We took advantage of the opportunity last year to make our committment to each other public by getting married.

I did not choose to be what I am, so why should the state have anything to say about it or who I love.

Under the previous law and the current law because I was born different I am prohibited by the state from enjoying a right afforded to the vast majority. Please explain to me how that is constitutional.

I would not support suing churchs who do not want to have SSM. It would be a good condition to have in the marriage law if it is not there already and to have it applied regardless of Race, sex perferance etc that churchs cannot be sued for refusing to marry a couple.

Really, can you please go to the nearest “black church’, and say they supported prop 8, because they are not, “deep thinkers”, Man would love to see that one:)

There was a time, not too long ago, in our nation when it would not have been unusual to hear that interracial marriage was also an abomination

See this is were the gays lose it! It is not, i repeat the same, interracial marriage is a civil rights issue, because it is denial based on skin colour only! Blacks and latinos as a large majority, voted for prop 8.

The problem is, it would not be the gays sueing, it would be distructive groups like, ACLU.
If gays would have the right to marry, then why not people who love their dogs. It sounds ridiculous,but their are alot of minority groups out there with alternative life styles.

I will state for the record that i am not opposed to gays having a legal union. It just gets into muddy water’s legally if you call it Marriage.

Dont blame the American people, blame the lawyers that use the law to push an agenda!

Yes, dear sweet Michelle we do. See, our Founding Fathers in the good ol’ US of A believed in this principle and these Fatheres were not sanctimonious Jesuits.