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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/lakewood-washington-cop-killer-was-pardoned-by-mike-huckabee/comment-page-1/#comment-112418</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ms. Vixen:  It is hard for people like you and me to understand.  The huckabees law is to do what they can get away with at the time because there is no punishment for the huckabees for any crime.  For example when I stood in front of huckabees tractor on my land (this suggested by the elected sheriff who had verified my ownership)huckabee revved up his motor to pretend to run me over.  I stood my ground as I could not watch him kill any more of my trees on my land, I said &#039;this is my land and you know it, go home!&#039;  He said &#039;It&#039;s my land now&#039;.  I said &#039;Oh you mean that bogus deed you filed against my land, I&#039;m turning you into Little Rock state lands commissioner for fraud&#039;.  He said and I quote - &quot;WER&#039;E THE HUCKABEES, LITTLE ROCK AIN&#039;T GONNA DO NUTHIN TO US” That right there sums up the whole huckabee family ego and attitude.

I think that huck&#039;s new ploy is to say that he is not running and then change his mind at the last minute if and when, god forbid, his people say polls want him to run.  Then he will give the classic &#039;My people begged me to run, and the country needs me&#039; crap just like those before him.

By the way, when he left, he left a $20 Billion surplus in Arkansas.  People here think that is great, well those same kinds of people think they will win the lottery too.  They do not understand math or econ 101.  That surplus clearly shows that the citizens of Arkansas were seriously overtaxed.  Arkansas state income taxes are higher than yours when I left California!  If he can&#039;t even balance the tiny budget of Arkansas (weather it is over or under does not matter, the key word is balance) how the hell can he balance the huge budget of the entire country?&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ms. Vixen:  It is hard for people like you and me to understand.  The huckabees law is to do what they can get away with at the time because there is no punishment for the huckabees for any crime.  For example when I stood in front of huckabees tractor on my land (this suggested by the elected sheriff who had verified my ownership)huckabee revved up his motor to pretend to run me over.  I stood my ground as I could not watch him kill any more of my trees on my land, I said &#8216;this is my land and you know it, go home!&#8217;  He said &#8216;It&#8217;s my land now&#8217;.  I said &#8216;Oh you mean that bogus deed you filed against my land, I&#8217;m turning you into Little Rock state lands commissioner for fraud&#8217;.  He said and I quote &#8211; &#8220;WER&#8217;E THE HUCKABEES, LITTLE ROCK AIN&#8217;T GONNA DO NUTHIN TO US” That right there sums up the whole huckabee family ego and attitude.</p>
<p>I think that huck&#8217;s new ploy is to say that he is not running and then change his mind at the last minute if and when, god forbid, his people say polls want him to run.  Then he will give the classic &#8216;My people begged me to run, and the country needs me&#8217; crap just like those before him.</p>
<p>By the way, when he left, he left a $20 Billion surplus in Arkansas.  People here think that is great, well those same kinds of people think they will win the lottery too.  They do not understand math or econ 101.  That surplus clearly shows that the citizens of Arkansas were seriously overtaxed.  Arkansas state income taxes are higher than yours when I left California!  If he can&#8217;t even balance the tiny budget of Arkansas (weather it is over or under does not matter, the key word is balance) how the hell can he balance the huge budget of the entire country?&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/lakewood-washington-cop-killer-was-pardoned-by-mike-huckabee/comment-page-1/#comment-112413</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Shedlock:  Before I made my postings I spent hours checking my facts and rereading the posts here.  I am deeply offended that you did not even come close.  My post states in part: &quot;(see my blog) Reagan never would have done what the huckabees did to me.&quot;  Please explain what pardons done by Reagan have to do with what the huckabees did to me.  I did not want to take up precious space here to explain, hence the reference to my blogsite.  The huckabee family are liars and thieves and had an innocent woman thrown in jail and her real estate taken by force illegally with the help of the local police and corrupt criminal court system when she refused to let them have it.  When she did not back down, they ruined her life and killed her animals.  PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE THE REAGANS DID ANYTHING REMOTELY LIKE THAT.  My friend worked at Reagan&#039;s Santa Barbara ranch.  I was using what happened to me and the subsequent personal research to demonstrate how corrupt parts of Arkansas are and what the huckabees are all about.  We must not let him become president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Shedlock:  Before I made my postings I spent hours checking my facts and rereading the posts here.  I am deeply offended that you did not even come close.  My post states in part: &#8220;(see my blog) Reagan never would have done what the huckabees did to me.&#8221;  Please explain what pardons done by Reagan have to do with what the huckabees did to me.  I did not want to take up precious space here to explain, hence the reference to my blogsite.  The huckabee family are liars and thieves and had an innocent woman thrown in jail and her real estate taken by force illegally with the help of the local police and corrupt criminal court system when she refused to let them have it.  When she did not back down, they ruined her life and killed her animals.  PLEASE SHOW ME WHERE THE REAGANS DID ANYTHING REMOTELY LIKE THAT.  My friend worked at Reagan&#8217;s Santa Barbara ranch.  I was using what happened to me and the subsequent personal research to demonstrate how corrupt parts of Arkansas are and what the huckabees are all about.  We must not let him become president.</p>
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		<title>By: mikado</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did a washington state judge declare open season on LEO&#039;s when he granted bail and issued  a &quot;license to kill&quot; to a known convicted felon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did a washington state judge declare open season on LEO&#8217;s when he granted bail and issued  a &#8220;license to kill&#8221; to a known convicted felon?</p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill O&#039;Reilly appears to be trying to out pardon Huckabee as the head pardon-er, as Bill O&#039; gives Huckabee a pardon:   It&#039;s not your fault!  

If Huckabee would have been a Democrat, you can be we&#039;d never hear the end of it from clowns like this.  Here&#039;s the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1jfMFSfuC4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill O&#8217;Reilly appears to be trying to out pardon Huckabee as the head pardon-er, as Bill O&#8217; gives Huckabee a pardon:   It&#8217;s not your fault!  </p>
<p>If Huckabee would have been a Democrat, you can be we&#8217;d never hear the end of it from clowns like this.  Here&#8217;s the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1jfMFSfuC4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1jfMFSfuC4</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome david.

Suspected Cop Killer Maurice Clemmons Killed by Police After Two-Day Manhunt
Police: Clemmons Had Help Evading Capture After Executing Four Lakewood Police Officers
By NEAL KARLINSKY and SARAH NETTER
Dec. 1, 2009— 

Police in Seattle have shot and killed the man suspected of executing four Lakewood, Wash., police officers. 

ABC News has confirmed that Maurice Clemmons was killed after police followed leads to a city address where he was hiding. Details of the early-morning confrontation weren&#039;t immediatley available. 

Clemmons had been the focus of an intense two-day manhunt that included a systematic raid of the homes of his friends and family, who were believed to have been helping him evade capture. 

Police said Monday that Clemmons was believed to have been armed while on the run, possibly with several guns. Calling him &quot;dangerous,&quot; they said, was an understatement. 

Pierce County Sheriff&#039;s Department spokesman Ed Troyer told ABC News Seattle affiliate KOMO-TV that the raids Monday were being carried out &quot;to collect evidence against him and against those helping him evade us.&quot; 

Clemmons, 37, suffered a gunshot wound to the abdomen in a brief shootout with the Lakewood officers he ultimately killed as they sat in a coffee shop Sunday morning, preparing for their next shift. 

&lt;snip&gt;

Clemmons had been released from custody six days ago, bonding out despite an outstanding warrant from Arkansas, where he was pardoned by then Gov. Mike Huckabee nine years ago after serving 11 years of a potential 60-year sentence. 

&lt;/snip&gt;&lt;snip&gt;

Read more: http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/lakewood-cop-killer-suspe...&lt;/snip&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome david.</p>
<p>Suspected Cop Killer Maurice Clemmons Killed by Police After Two-Day Manhunt<br />
Police: Clemmons Had Help Evading Capture After Executing Four Lakewood Police Officers<br />
By NEAL KARLINSKY and SARAH NETTER<br />
Dec. 1, 2009— </p>
<p>Police in Seattle have shot and killed the man suspected of executing four Lakewood, Wash., police officers. </p>
<p>ABC News has confirmed that Maurice Clemmons was killed after police followed leads to a city address where he was hiding. Details of the early-morning confrontation weren&#8217;t immediatley available. </p>
<p>Clemmons had been the focus of an intense two-day manhunt that included a systematic raid of the homes of his friends and family, who were believed to have been helping him evade capture. </p>
<p>Police said Monday that Clemmons was believed to have been armed while on the run, possibly with several guns. Calling him &#8220;dangerous,&#8221; they said, was an understatement. </p>
<p>Pierce County Sheriff&#8217;s Department spokesman Ed Troyer told ABC News Seattle affiliate KOMO-TV that the raids Monday were being carried out &#8220;to collect evidence against him and against those helping him evade us.&#8221; </p>
<p>Clemmons, 37, suffered a gunshot wound to the abdomen in a brief shootout with the Lakewood officers he ultimately killed as they sat in a coffee shop Sunday morning, preparing for their next shift. </p>
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<p>Clemmons had been released from custody six days ago, bonding out despite an outstanding warrant from Arkansas, where he was pardoned by then Gov. Mike Huckabee nine years ago after serving 11 years of a potential 60-year sentence. </p>
<p></snip><snip></p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/lakewood-cop-killer-suspe.." rel="nofollow">http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/lakewood-cop-killer-suspe..</a>.</snip></p>
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		<title>By: David Shedlock</title>
		<link>http://orangejuiceblog.com/2009/11/lakewood-washington-cop-killer-was-pardoned-by-mike-huckabee/comment-page-1/#comment-112338</link>
		<dc:creator>David Shedlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 05:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Reagan never would have done what the huckabees have done to me&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Q0CX6QGvP1QJ:gov.ca.gov/press-release/2421/+governor+%22number+of+pardons%22+california&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reagan leading pardoner in California history&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:6JpWj1Q1Ts8J:pardonpower.com/labels/California.html+governor+%22number+of+pardons%22+california&amp;cd=3&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
Reagan pardons MerleHaggard&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Reagan never would have done what the huckabees have done to me&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:Q0CX6QGvP1QJ:gov.ca.gov/press-release/2421/+governor+%22number+of+pardons%22+california&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">Reagan leading pardoner in California history</a></p>
<p><a href="http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:6JpWj1Q1Ts8J:pardonpower.com/labels/California.html+governor+%22number+of+pardons%22+california&amp;cd=3&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow"><br />
Reagan pardons MerleHaggard</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red Vixen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Vixen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to OJ, Dawn.  Thanks for taking the time to post and share your website.

Huckabee demonstrates that he has no respect for due process in the law.  He likes to circumvent it by issuing all those pardons.   Probably some kind of ego power trip.  But he clearly stands out in doing this kind of thing.

Terry, there are LOTS of Democrats who have been waiting 20 some years to get revenge for the Willie Horton thing against Dukakis.  I have never been a democrat, so I don&#039;t really have much opinion about the WH deal, but I can tell you that on the dem sites, they look at this as an opportunity to visit revenge upon the GOP with the same kind of smear concept.   I see that Huckabee had said on a news/talk show on Sunday that he was not planning on running for President.  I think the story had already broken, but it is unclear if he had PLANNED to announce that or not on that show.

I am struck by the photos of the Police officers who were killed.  They looked like decent people who will be missed terribly by their families and community.  Such a waste of their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to OJ, Dawn.  Thanks for taking the time to post and share your website.</p>
<p>Huckabee demonstrates that he has no respect for due process in the law.  He likes to circumvent it by issuing all those pardons.   Probably some kind of ego power trip.  But he clearly stands out in doing this kind of thing.</p>
<p>Terry, there are LOTS of Democrats who have been waiting 20 some years to get revenge for the Willie Horton thing against Dukakis.  I have never been a democrat, so I don&#8217;t really have much opinion about the WH deal, but I can tell you that on the dem sites, they look at this as an opportunity to visit revenge upon the GOP with the same kind of smear concept.   I see that Huckabee had said on a news/talk show on Sunday that he was not planning on running for President.  I think the story had already broken, but it is unclear if he had PLANNED to announce that or not on that show.</p>
<p>I am struck by the photos of the Police officers who were killed.  They looked like decent people who will be missed terribly by their families and community.  Such a waste of their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am from Santa Barbara California.  I had no idea of the corruption here.  (see my blog)  Reagan never would have done what the huckabees have done to me.  I am too broke to go back home.  I am a Reagan conservative.  huck is a fake baptist preacher.  For example, he would be in the governor&#039;s office swearing up a storm and open the door.  If a member of the press was there, he would smile and say &#039;what a glorious day the lord has given us.&#039;  He could not have beaten the Clintons, so he became a republican.  He is left for sure.  He put a Mexican consulate in Little Rock AR which specifically goes against the AR constitution.  I have done my homework and spoken to people who worked with him.  He started out in a mobile home preaching.  He never worked a real job and now he is a millionaire.  His money came from the Arkansas people.  He got it illeagally.  No one in the capital will persue these activities.  My friend has sued him on behalf of the AR people with his own money, but he gets cut down before court.  No one realizes that no one will police the rules and regs for polititians.  No one.  Everyone thinks that these things are lies because no one could get away with it.  The truth is that no one will go after these people and god help me or anyone who gets in their way.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am from Santa Barbara California.  I had no idea of the corruption here.  (see my blog)  Reagan never would have done what the huckabees have done to me.  I am too broke to go back home.  I am a Reagan conservative.  huck is a fake baptist preacher.  For example, he would be in the governor&#8217;s office swearing up a storm and open the door.  If a member of the press was there, he would smile and say &#8216;what a glorious day the lord has given us.&#8217;  He could not have beaten the Clintons, so he became a republican.  He is left for sure.  He put a Mexican consulate in Little Rock AR which specifically goes against the AR constitution.  I have done my homework and spoken to people who worked with him.  He started out in a mobile home preaching.  He never worked a real job and now he is a millionaire.  His money came from the Arkansas people.  He got it illeagally.  No one in the capital will persue these activities.  My friend has sued him on behalf of the AR people with his own money, but he gets cut down before court.  No one realizes that no one will police the rules and regs for polititians.  No one.  Everyone thinks that these things are lies because no one could get away with it.  The truth is that no one will go after these people and god help me or anyone who gets in their way&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Vern Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vern Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Dawn... As you can see by some of the above comments, &quot;conservatives&quot; have always had mixed feelings about Huckabee, so I&#039;m not sure they&#039;d rush to his defense.  He is stark-raving mad in many ways, but he has also committed unforgivable heresies in their eyes.  He&#039;s always been a moderate on immigration for one thing, and for another his fervent Christianity has led him to fiscal policies in his state that helped the poor.  &lt;i&gt;No bueno!&lt;/i&gt; (to wingnuts.)

Then this whole clemency thing - it apparently is a much bigger pattern than I realized a couple years ago after the DuMond thing.  Maybe he bases that on Christian forgiveness to, but I&#039;d have to side with the law-and-order nuts on this, he&#039;s endangering public safety!

Hey, it&#039;s neat to have you and Bubba over here from Arkansas, I didn&#039;t realize we were so widely read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Dawn&#8230; As you can see by some of the above comments, &#8220;conservatives&#8221; have always had mixed feelings about Huckabee, so I&#8217;m not sure they&#8217;d rush to his defense.  He is stark-raving mad in many ways, but he has also committed unforgivable heresies in their eyes.  He&#8217;s always been a moderate on immigration for one thing, and for another his fervent Christianity has led him to fiscal policies in his state that helped the poor.  <i>No bueno!</i> (to wingnuts.)</p>
<p>Then this whole clemency thing &#8211; it apparently is a much bigger pattern than I realized a couple years ago after the DuMond thing.  Maybe he bases that on Christian forgiveness to, but I&#8217;d have to side with the law-and-order nuts on this, he&#8217;s endangering public safety!</p>
<p>Hey, it&#8217;s neat to have you and Bubba over here from Arkansas, I didn&#8217;t realize we were so widely read!</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rush never would shup up about the Willie Horton thing.  Does anyone think Rush will give the Clemmons clemency thing the same air time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rush never would shup up about the Willie Horton thing.  Does anyone think Rush will give the Clemmons clemency thing the same air time?</p>
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		<title>By: the great one</title>
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		<dc:creator>the great one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rogue i agree with you .they lost their way bush lost his head . they have to get back to their core values . low taxes and less gov . if they do that they can win . because nobama and pelosi are taking this country a direction they dont want to go . see recent polls .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rogue i agree with you .they lost their way bush lost his head . they have to get back to their core values . low taxes and less gov . if they do that they can win . because nobama and pelosi are taking this country a direction they dont want to go . see recent polls .</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding, this is nothing new.  Five miles from my farm here, a three time drunk driver sat in jail to do a one year stint. He donated $20k to Huck&#039;s campaign and got clemincy and, you guessed it, within a year almost killed a cop just before his arrest for his fourth DWI just 8 miles from here.  I DON&#039;T WANT TO BE NEAR ANY OF THESE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, IN THE STORE OR ANYWHERE!  I don&#039;t care if they are commuted, paroled, pardoned or whatever.  I don&#039;t want them around me or my loved ones, or even my pets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding, this is nothing new.  Five miles from my farm here, a three time drunk driver sat in jail to do a one year stint. He donated $20k to Huck&#8217;s campaign and got clemincy and, you guessed it, within a year almost killed a cop just before his arrest for his fourth DWI just 8 miles from here.  I DON&#8217;T WANT TO BE NEAR ANY OF THESE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, IN THE STORE OR ANYWHERE!  I don&#8217;t care if they are commuted, paroled, pardoned or whatever.  I don&#8217;t want them around me or my loved ones, or even my pets!</p>
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