Blah,blah blah. Same tired nonsense.

And you are a man that has benifited from the fact that you are brown (affirmative action) in a country obsessed with trying to right the wrongs of the past, which allows men like yourself to get entitlements based on your colour and not on merit.
Everything i have in this world, i got by being honest, hardworking and resourceful. I would never even think of using my gender to get ahead.

And being poor does not = stupity. One of the poorest people on this earth are from India, the smartest people on this earth are from India!”

What is stupid about stating a fact. India has a highly skilled work force!

Now now Doc, dont be a bigot!

The only thing i hate in this world is people who take advantage of other’s, and have no problem doing so! People with a tribel mentality, like yourself, just have not advanced enough to see the people of this world as equal and should be treated as such. In this country, all men/women have a chance to do well. If you don’t do well in this country, its because you did not try hard enough! Maybe people from India are not the smartest people, but they have a great work ethic, and the passion to suceed.

“I can not debate with a man that refuses to see the truth!”

The truth is that you are a irresponsible hate monger presenting your personal opinions as facts in order to incite hatred.

“And being poor does not = stupity. One of the poorest people on this earth are from India, the smartest people on this earth are from India!”

In may cases Michelle = stupidity, like in this comment.

Most overseas jobs are going to india, because not only is it cheap labor, but skilled labor.

really Doc?

I can not debate with a man that refuses to see the truth!

And being poor does not = stupity. One of the poorest people on this earth are from India, the smartest people on this earth are from India!

Respectful groups noted have done the studies posted that showed the benefits.

These studies blow your agenda talking points out of the water.

The truth is that you are a irresponsible hate monger presenting your personal opinions as facts in order to incite hatred.

Illegal immigration arguments do not involve race. When race is noted by your critics it is to point out that because you ignore facts a perception of you as a bigot is formed. You associate undocumented Hispanics with social problems as a genetic trait. See below:

“Latin illegal immigrantion, especially to this state has brought crime, low preforming schools, gangs, welfare use and corruption with tax payer money. The truth is that this state has 35% of all welfare users, because this state has the largest majority of Mexican illegal immigrants.”

You argument of social problems should not be about Latins as all Latin immigrants legal or not are not associated with the social problems you mention.

The social problems you mention are a condition of poverty. All poor immigrant groups in immigration history to America are similar in this regard.

Do you believe poverty is a gene in the DNA of Hispanics? Is that why you ignored post #28?

Race is just a distraction from the truth. This country is becoming a socical justice nightmare.

Self preservation is an instinct embedded in DNA, all living organisms have it. The history of immigration to America legal or not is about the instinct of self preservation. Prejudices by past arrivals towards recent arrivals is part of history to the present.

The more contact a native-born American has with immigrants, typically the more positive view of immigrants one has.[73] The less contact a native-born American has with immigrants, the more likely one would have a negative view of immigrants.[73]

Benjamin Franklin opposed German immigration, stating that they would not assimilate into the culture.[74] Irish immigration was opposed in the 1850s by the Nativist/Know Nothing movement, originating in New York in 1843. It was engendered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by Irish Catholic immigrants. In 1891, a lynch mob stormed a local jail and hanged several Italians following the acquittal of several Sicilian immigrants alleged to be involved in the murder of New Orleans police chief David Hennessy. The Congress passed the Emergency Quota Act in 1921, followed by the Immigration Act of 1924. The Immigration Act of 1924 was aimed at further restricting the Southern and Eastern Europeans who had begun to enter the country in large numbers beginning in the 1890s. Systematic bias against Japanese and German immigrants emerged during and after World War II. Irish and Jewish immigrants were popular targets early in the 20th century and most recently immigrants from Latin American countries are often viewed with hostility. Some Americans have not completely adjusted to the largely non-European immigration and racism does occur. After September 11, many Middle Eastern immigrants and those perceived to be of Middle Eastern origins were targets of hate crimes.

“And at no point in any of your post’s from Irish immigrants did you hear them demand an education, healthcare or welfare. The difference with Irish, Italian, ect… immigrants of the past is that they made it or did not. Work ethic not welfare supported my people and other immigrants of the past.”

Public social services were not available in the point in history cited above. If they were the Irish immigrants most certainly would of used them. USA immigrants and natives, not undocumented because the law prohibits it, of all races and nationalities currently use social services now because they are available.

“Race is not the issue that concerns people about illegal immigrants from Mexico and other third world latin countries. The concern is social decay, horrible educational preformance and welfare use. These three problems have become a huge burden on the working class American.”

It is a race issue with you Michelle because you constantly ignore facts that contradict you belief above. Many disagree with your ignorant beliefs. Please read below:

At the June 13, 1998, Commencement Address at Portland State University, president Bill Clinton said, “new immigrants are good for America. They are revitalizing our cities…building our new economy…strengthening our ties to the global economy, just as earlier waves of immigrants settled on the new frontier and powered the Industrial Revolution. They are energizing our culture and broadening our vision of the world. They are renewing our most basic values and reminding us all of what it truly means to be an American.” [12]

Opinions vary about the economic effects of immigration. Those who find that immigrants produce a negative effect on the U.S. economy often focus on the difference between taxes paid and government services received and wage-lowering effects among low-skilled native workers,[49][50] while those who find positive economics effects focus on added productivity and lower costs to consumers for certain goods and services.[51] In a late 1980s study, economists themselves overwhelmingly viewed immigration, including illegal immigration, as a positive for the economy.[52] According to James Smith, a senior economist at Santa Monica-based RAND Corporation and lead author of the United States National Research Council’s study “The New Americans: Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects of Immigration”, immigrants contribute as much as $10 billion to the U.S. economy each year.[53] The NRC report found that although immigrants, especially those from Latin America, were a net cost in terms of taxes paid versus social services received, overall immigration was a net economic gain due to an increase in pay for higher-skilled workers, lower prices for goods and services produced by immigrant labor, and more efficiency and lower wages for some owners of capital. The report also notes that although immigrant workers compete with domestic workers for some low skilled jobs, some immigrants specialize in activities that otherwise would not exist in an area, and thus are performing services that otherwise would not exist, and thus can be beneficial to all domestic residents[54] About 21 million immigrants, or about 15 percent of the labor force, hold jobs in the United States. However, the number of unemployed is only seven million, meaning that immigrant workers are not taking jobs from domestic workers. Rather, they are doing jobs that would not have existed had the immigrant workers not been in the United States[55]. U.S. Census Bureau’s Survey of Business Owners: Hispanic-Owned Firms: 2002 indicated that the number of Hispanic-owned businesses in the United States grew to nearly 1.6 million in 2002. Those Hispanic-owned businesses generated about $222 billion in revenue.[56] The report notes that the burden of poor immigrants is not born equally among states, and is most heavy in California.[57] Another claim that those supporting current and expanded immigration levels is that immigrants mostly do jobs Americans don’t want. A 2006 Pew Hispanic Center report added evidence to support that claim when they found that increasing immigration levels have not hurt employment prospects for American workers.[58]

In 2009, a study by the Cato Institute, a free market think tank, found that legalization of low-skilled illegal resident workers in the US would result in a net increase in US GDP of $180 billion over ten years.[59]

Jason Riley notes that because of progressive income taxation, in which the top 1% of earners pay 37% of federal income taxes, 60% of Americans collect more in government services than they pay in. Thus, it is not remarkable that some immigrants would do the same.[60] In any event, the typical immigrant and his children will pay a net $80,000 more in their lifetimes than they collect in government services, according to the NAS.[61]

The Kauffman Foundation’s index of entrepreneurial activity is nearly 40% higher for immigrants than for natives.[62] Immigrants were involved in the founding of many prominent American high-tech companies, such as Google, Yahoo, Sun Microsystems, and eBay.[63]

On the poor end of the spectrum, the “New Americans” report found that low-skill low wage immigration does not, on aggregate, lower the wages of most domestic workers. The report also addresses the question of if immigration affects black Americans differently from the population in general: “While some have suspected that blacks suffer disproportionately from the inflow of low-skilled immigrants, none of the available evidence suggests that they have been particularly hard-hit on a national level. Some have lost their jobs, especially in places where immigrants are concentrated. But the majority of blacks live elsewhere, and their economic fortunes are tied to other factors.”[64]

Bill Hunt will be the Sheriff for ALL people – as he’s supposed to be. When you call him for help, he’s not going to ask if you’re Black, White, Male, Female, Democrat, Republican, Barbara Coe or Arellano supporter etc. He will treat everyone respectfully and fairly and enforce the law the same way.

There were literally hundreds of pictures taken that night yet Pedroza and Arellano select this one to crow about and frame Hunt’s entire campaign around. LOL!

Newsflash, La Raza Soldados: There were more Hispanics inside the building in the 300+ crowd then there were outside and they weren’t even bussed in – they PAID to come hear Arpaio speak! ROFLMAO!!!
…A minor fact you and your fellow biased La Raza buddy, Tony Saavedra at the OC Register, managed to omit – and Saavedra was allowed inside the event…

Million’s of Irish Men, Women, children starved to death, because the British took the main source of food, the potato. But it is the past, not a very nice past, but the past. One of the reason’s i left Ireland, was the fact that i was sick and tried of people constantly living in the past, and not looking to the future. This world has had a very dark past, but i look only to the future. Today Mexico with all its resources and wealthy, do not educate their people, because they send the uneducated here. If there is going to be a future in Mexico, they need to build it, not rely on their neighbour for it, like an entitlement.

And Lam, it is ridiculous for Viets to complain about this when they were given a FREE ride to come here. And why? Because after thousands of us died to protect them – and after we gave them military training and weapons, they were unable to defend themselves. What a crock. Why is it OK for them to come here while you malign Mexicans? Ridiculous.

Are you kidding me? I have no beef with the viets, because i am not paying for them or their kids in huge numbers. And i think Lam feels the same. If Santa Ana was full of viets/Irish, both lam and i would be saying the same thing. You are all about your race and their needs. What about the needs of everyday working people of all colours to not be taxed to death to cover jail, healthcare, education of your culture. This is about the burdern of hispanics not the colour of them!

Dr.L,

Thankyou for the great post’s about Irish immigrants and how hard they have had to work.
And at no point in any of your post’s from Irish immigrants did you hear them demand an education, healthcare or welfare. The difference with Irish, Italian, ect… immigrants of the past is that they made it or did not. Work ethic not welfare supported my people and other immigrants of the past.

Race is not the issue that concerns people about illegal immigrants from Mexico and other third world latin countries. The concern is social decay, horrible educational preformance and welfare use. These three problems have become a huge burden on the working class American.

Race is your issue Art, Dr.l, Sean, not mine and I think i speak for lam as well!