As if we didn’t have enough reasons to not vote for Bill Hunt, he appears in the video above, giving his support to the racist “Rule of Law” statute passed by the Costa Mesa City Council this week.
“This week’s resolution follows an April news conference in which Mayor Allan Mansoor called for stricter regulations to catch illegal immigrants living, working and driving in the city,” according to the L.A. Times.
It was a unanimous vote, according to the L.A. Times, but Council Woman Katrina Foley says she did not vote for this. Thanks Katrina!
According to Gustavo Arellano, Mansoor, whose parents were immigrants from Egypt and Sweden, has failed in his longstanding war against all things Mexican:
Actually, Mansoor’s campaign against illegals has cost the city much money than it has saved. The city spent tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars both defending against and pursuing an unsuccessful lawsuit against activist Coyotl Tezcatlipoca, all because Mansoor didn’t appreciate Coyotl’s defiance of Da Dum-Dum Mayor on the dais during a city council meeting. Mansoor tried closing down the Orange Coast College Swap Meet, a move that would’ve cost the city thousands in fees. And Mansoor rejected $40,000 in funds that a basketball league would’ve paid the city, all because the league had the word “Aztec” in it and mostly involved Mexis.
A group on Facebook is leading a boycott against Costa Mesa. Click here to check them out. Don’t spend your money at Costa Mesa businesses!!!
And don’t forget to donate to Phu Nguyen, who is running for the Democratic nomination in the 68th Assembly District. Click here to see his website. If Mansoor beats Long Pham, in the GOP primary, then Nguyen will be our only hope to stop Mansoor and prevent him from getting to Sacramento.
It’s working great in virgina-80% of the prince Williams citizens think so. Let us see how it works in Az.
🙂
the fox report you mean the number 1 news network . do you get your info from telemundo and msnbc san gabriel .
MQ,
What is working well?
Immigration reform!
Ok, great one, that will do,that will do.
Lomeli: That’s right!
MQ: No counterpoint will really ever stop and make you think for awhile will it?
the great one: I actually watch more fox news than msnbc or telemundo (why suggest the latter, hmm?) None of those corporate channels of information really speak about NAFTA all too much in relation to immigration. It’s the turd in the punch bowl.
But anyway, I’m a public radio producer so I consume a broad and dense range of media. I don’t sit and worship one ideological outlet that defines me. (that’s not to say I don’t like some more than others, or don’t draw conclusions one way or another from or about them)
PS, I cited the Wall Street Journal in my previous post!
What you do not get is the fact that, The great one and myself are from hell and now we are in heaven. Do you really think we are going to let a bunch of spoiled brats f@@& that up for our kids?
No can do!
The Cuban people have fought and died for their country, when mexicans do the same. Only then will I give them leave way!
Stop bitching and moaning and do what the rest of us immigrants did, become an asset not a burden!
more than a million died in the great mexican revolution of 1910. they fought off spanish colonialism a century before that and revolted against the french. when nafta passed, the ezln rose up in defiance.
you speak of cubans dying for their country…you couldn’t possibly be referring to the cuban revolution could you?
there’s no such thing as undocumented cuban migration because the us doesn’t play uniform when it comes to its immigration laws and bends for its obsessive hatred of the cuban revolution.
the mexican immigrants of the us are an integral part of the economy. even that racist russell pierce wants their labor preserved in the form of an exploitative guest worker program…
try again in making sense
mq thank you , thank you , these people will never get it . what is going on right now see what is happening in creece . its here in calfornia .
What are you trying to say, possibly? That illegal immigrants in Greece dragged the economy down into a debt crisis like in California? I know this must be hard for you, but you just can regurgitate and lob out things you’ve heard on Fox News, make an analogy with no substance behind it!
nafta passed, the ezln rose up in defiance.
MQ says:
Just as the Spanish sold Mexico to the Americans, the Spanish continues to rule the country and use the natives as a source of income, by sending them here to the US. You enable it, with your constant rants, that instead of the Mexican government being responsible for its Citizens, somehow this country has become the board and care center for Mexico’s poor and uneducated!
Latina’s from south of the border bye far have become more of a burden to this society than it is an asset. This is why even immigrants like myself want enforcement to stop such a large flow of illegal immigrants from south of the border. It is destroying the neighborhoods, corrupting the school system and enabling the social justice whack jobs to live out their dreams of a socialized population. In Orange County every social Service program is geared toward illegal immigrants and their kids costing millions and neglecting American Citizen’s who maybe in real crisis for the first time because of this economy!
All the above is the truth because it is happening all around us and that is why the AZ law is going to become very, very popular!
The Obama administration is at an all time low for a good reason!
I know there are good people from Mexico that just want to feed their family and therefore I agree with a guest worker program that enable immigrants to get benefits…
I think if you employ immigrants you should provide health care etc…
And without a doubt I do not think that Illegal immigrant children should be considered a US citizen just because they are born on this soil. This is what does not make sense. No other country in the world allows this rubbish.
It’s already happening here my Friend TGO. It’s a good thing that it is!
Boycott Costa Mesa? With the exception of Santa Ana, CM probably has more hispanic owned businesses than anywhere in Orange County.
Randall,
We are encouraging folks to boycott only the non-Latino businesses in Costa Mesa.
MQ,
Mexico doesn’t send its people over here. The USA federal government,corporate America and our neighbors facilitate them getting here. The large resulting youth are here to support our economy and support our aging population.
They are our saviours. I bet that just causes you to burn……GOOD.
We are the demand they are the supply.
All available data show that illegal immigrant produce for than what they consume. You are a liar. You present lies to demonize Mexicans in order to propagate your racist agenda.
MQ
Posted May 26, 2010 at 7:21 PM
What you do not get is the fact that, The great one and myself are from hell and now we are in heaven. Do you really think we are going to let a bunch of spoiled brats f@@& that up for our kids?
No can do!
Incredibly stupid and irresponsible comment.
MQ, for your benefit see below.
Recipients of the Medal of Honor
Main article: List of Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients
(L-R) Army and Navy (Marines) Medals of HonorThe Medal of Honor, sometimes referred to as the Congressional Medal of Honor, is the highest military decoration in the United States bestowed “for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life, above and beyond the call of duty, in actual combat against an armed enemy force.” The medal is awarded by the President of the United States on behalf of the Congress. Joe P. Martinez was the first of 13 Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients during World War II. His posthumous award was the first for combat heroism on American soil (other than Pearl Harbor) since the Indian Campaigns.[72]
Pvt. Joseph Pantillion MartinezPvt. Joe P. Martinez, whose birth name was Joseph Pantillion Martinez, was one of nine children born to a family of Mexican immigrants. His family moved to Ault, Colorado and on August 1942, he was drafted into the United States Army and sent to Camp Roberts, California, where he received his basic training.
On May 26, 1943, the 32nd Infantry Regiment was pinned down by enemy fire in the vicinity of Fish Hook Ridge, in the Aleutian Islands. On his own account, Pvt. Martinez led two assaults, firing into the Japanese foxholes and occasionally stopping to urge on his comrades. His example inspired the men of his unit to follow. Martinez was shot in the head as he approached one final foxhole after the second assault, dying of the wound the following day. Because of his actions the pass was taken, and its capture was an important preliminary to the end of organized hostile resistance. Martinez was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor.[73]
Of the 13 Medals of Honor awarded to Hispanics, six were awarded posthumously. Texas accounted for the most Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients in World War II with a total of five (Marcario Garcia was raised in Sugar Land, Texas). The 13 recipients are:
1.Lucian Adams: United States Army. Born in Port Arthur, Texas. Place and Date of Action: St. Die, France, October 1944.[74]
2.Rudolph B. Davila: United States Army. Born in El Paso, Texas. Place and Date of Action: Artena, Italy, May 28, 1944. Davila was of Hispanic-Filipino descent and the only person of Filipino ancestry to receive the medal for his actions in the war in Europe.[75]
3.Marcario Garcia: United States Army. Born in Villa de Castano, Mexico. Place and Date of Action: Near Grosshau, Germany, November 27, 1944. Garcia was the first Mexican national Medal of Honor recipient.[76]
4.Harold Gonsalves*: United States Marine Corps. Born in Alameda, California. Place and Date of Action: Ryūkyū Chain, Okinawa, April 15, 1945.[76]
5.David M. Gonzales*: United States Army. Born in Pacoima, California. Place and Date of Action: Villa Verde Trail, Luzon, Philippine Islands, April 25, 1945.[76]
6.Silvestre S. Herrera: United States Army. Born in Camargo, Chihuahua, Mexico. Place and Date of Action: Near Mertzwiller, France, March 15, 1945. At the time of his death, Herrera had been the only living person authorized to wear the Medal of Honor and Mexico’s equivalent Premier Merito Militar (Order of Military Merit), Mexico’s highest award for valor. Herrera was a Mexican citizen by birth.[76][77]
7.Jose M. Lopez: United States Army. Born in Mission, Texas. Place and Date of Action: Near Krinkelt, Belgium, December 17, 1944.[76]
8.Joe P. Martinez*: United States Army. Born in Taos, New Mexico. Place and Date of Action: Attu, Aleutians, May 26, 1943. Martinez was the first Hispanic American posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor for combat heroism on American soil during World War II.[78]
9.Manuel Perez Jr.*: United States Army. Born in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Place and Date of Action: Fort William McKinley, Luzon, Philippine Islands, February 13, 1945.[78]
10.Cleto L. Rodriguez: United States Army. Born in San Marcos, Texas. Place and Date of Action: Paco Railroad Station, Manila, Philippine Islands, February 9, 1945.[78]
11.Alejandro R. Ruiz: United States Army. Born in Loving, New Mexico. Place and Date of Action: Okinawa, Japan, April 28, 1945.[78]
12.Jose F. Valdez*: United States Army. Born in Governador, New Mexico. Place and Date of Action: Rosenkrantz, France, January 25, 1945.[79]
13.Ysmael R. Villegas*: United States Army. Born in Casa Blanca, California. Place and Date of Action: Villa Verde Trail, Luzon, Philippine Islands, March 20, 1945.[79]
* Awarded posthumously.
[edit] Top military decorations
Hispanic Americans:
U.S. Armed Forces Awards in World War II Number
Medal of Honor 13
Distinguished Service Cross 140
Navy Cross Medal 25
Legion of Merit 323
Silver Star 2006
Bronze Star 1352
Distinguished Flying Cross 55
Purple Heart 3378
Air Medal 237
Hispanics were recipients of every major U.S. military decoration during World War II; they have also been honored with military awards from other countries. Thirty-one Hispanic-Americans were awarded the Belgium Croix de guerre and three Hispanic-Americans received the French Croix de guerre. The figures in the following table were derived from the book Undaunted Courage Mexican American Patriots Of World War II published in 2005 by Latino Advocates for Education, Inc. and according to Rogelio C. Rodriguez of the LAE, the figures are based on listings of military service personnel that have been complied from military records, historical documentation, or personal accounts.[80]
[edit] Hero Street, USA
In the Midwest town of Silvis, Illinois, the former Second Street is now known as Hero Street USA. The muddy block and a half long street was home to Mexican immigrants who worked for the Rock Island Railroad. The 22 families who lived on the street were a close-knit group. From this small street, 84 men served in World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. The street contributed more men to military services in World War II and Korea than any other street of comparable size in the U.S. In total, eight men from Hero Street gave their lives during World War II—Joseph Gomez, Peter Macias, Johnny Muños, Tony Pompa, Frank Sandoval, Joseph “Joe” Sandoval, William “Willie” Sandoval and Claro Solis. Second Street’s name was changed to Hero Street in honor of these men and their families.[81]
Of the 22 families on Second Street, the two Sandoval families had a total of thirteen men who served in the armed forces. Three died in service during World War II. The Sandovals were two families of Mexican immigrants, with the same surname and lived on Second Street.[82]
Purple Heart MedalEduvigis and Angelina Sandoval immigrated to the U.S. from Romita, Mexico. Their son, Frank, was a combat engineer assigned to help build the Ledo Road in Burma. He was killed when his unit was sent unexpectedly to the front to fight for control of a key airbase. His older brother, Joe, was assigned to the 41st Armored Infantry Division in Europe. He was killed in April 1944, just days before the war ended.[82]
Joseph and Carmen Sandoval also immigrated to the United States from Mexico. When the war broke out, their son Willie asked for permission to enlist in the Army and both parents consented to their son’s request. Willie Sandoval was trained as a paratrooper and was assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division. He fought in Italy and Germany, and was killed on October 6, 1944, during a combat mission related to Operation Market-Garden, the largest airborne operation of all time.
“The Fighting Medinas”Other families like the Sandovals had multiple members join the Armed Forces. The Banuelo family, originally from Mexico and who resided in Los Angeles, California, the Garcia family from Los Angeles, California, and the Mora family from Laredo, Texas, each had six siblings who served in the military during the war. The Nevarez family, from Los Angeles, California, had a total of eight siblings serving in the Armed Forces.[80] Seven brothers of the Medina family known as “The fighting Medinas”, fought in the war. They came from Rio Grande, Puerto Rico and Brooklyn, New York.[83]
The above post was in response to this comment by MQ that I deleted from the start of thepost
“The Cuban people have fought and died for their country, when mexicans do the same. Only then will I give them leave way!”
Historical Contributions of Hispanic/Mexican-American Veterans:
* Please see the link below for “Hispanics in America’s Defense” for a historical summary of various contributions by Hispanic Americans since the American Revolution, published in 1982 by the US Defense Department, which includes at least 37 Hispanic US Congressional Medal of Honor recipients, the highest honor the nation can bestow.
[There are now 43 Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients…many Medal of Honor have been denied in the past, because the feeling was that Mexican or low ranking veterans should not receive them… Also, the count is incomplete because in the past American veterans of Latino/Hispanic/Mexican descent were classified as White which also served to severely under-count the contributions.]
* Per page 40, “Hispanic American have shown that if there is a theme to Hispanic participation in America’s wars, it is: ‘First in…Last to leave’ ! ”
* See also Lt. Everett Alvarez Jr.; 1st American Pilot & 1st Hispanic-American POW from Viet Nam, and confirmed as the longest confined POW (8 1/2 years) in US history (pg 38.)
http://www.navy.mil/navco/pages/ssp/reference/hispanics-def.pdf
Also Four of these Hispanic Medal of Honor recipients were BORN in MEXICO.
http://umava.org/images/Medal_of_Honor_earned_by_Mexican_born_Veterans.pdf
“PFC Silvestre S. Herrera (July 17, 1917 – November 26, 2007) born in Camargo, Chihuahua, Mexico received the MOH for his heroic actions during WWII in Mertzwiller, France. At the time of his death he was the only living person authorized to wear both the Medal of Honor and Mexico’s Order of Military Merit (Orden de Merito Militar 1a clase). Former President Dwight Eisenhower also received the Orden de Merito Militar on August 17, 1946.”
Francisco “Paco” Barragan CPA, CIA
Commander, UMAVA
United Mexican-American Veterans Association
http://umava.org/
Hispanics in America’s Defense”
Are you implying that these MOH recipients were not US citizens? Or even foreign nationals?
Cook:
Citizenship and Ethnic identity are TWO separate categories. Please keep the distinction in mind.
For example, my ethnic cultural identity is Mexican, or more precisely, MEXICAN-AMERICAN
(I am bicultural), but I am ONLY a US Citizen. I do NOT have DUAL CITIZENSHIP…again I am ONLY an American/US Citizen.
You or anybody else can self identify as you choose, mono-; bi-; or multicultural…that is your right as an American citizen.
This is the same as when someone says they are Christian (this is a cultural/spiritual/faith based identity) and again a separate category from CITIZENSHIP…identifying as Christian does NOT imply one is NOT a US Citizen, nor whether one is a foreign national or not…you would have to know the citizenship status to correctly determine that.
Also, some Latino/Hispanics/Mexicans have served and died for America when they were not even US citizens.
OC Hero – Marine Corporal Jose Angel Garibay was the Iraq’s war FIRST casualty.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/orangecounty/obituary.aspx?n=jose-angel-garibay&pid=894725
He was born in Mexico, was NOT a US citizen, and had been GRANTED AMNESTY with his family.
Per a quote from the OC Register article…”Former Marine Donato Leombruni, 38, has offered to help the family fill out an application for posthumous citizenship. Immigration law allows citizenship for those in the armed services killed in the line of duty. Garibay was a legal U.S. resident, granted amnesty with his family.”
“I love the United States and want to be an American hero,” his mother Simona Garibay recalled him saying.
Marine Cpl Garibay’ death “helped focus public attention on the contributions of so-called “Green Card” troops. Members of Congress cited his case when they streamlined the process for legal residents serving in the armed forces to become U.S. citizens.”
http://projects.latimes.com/wardead/name/jose-angel-garibay/
For all of us who have served in our Armed Forces of America, US citizen or not; whether we identify as Asian-; Irish-; Vietnamese-; Italian-; Mexican-American we have ONE foundation…
Do you know what that is?
please see the link to find out:
http://umava.org/ourfoundationourflag.html
Francisco “Paco” Barragan CPA, CIA
Commander, UMAVA
United Mexican-American Veterans Association
http://umava.org/
I pop’ed off before reading your entire post.
I served with many non-USA citizens in the US military. Didn’t mean to disparage the memory of any fellow vet.
Mexico doesn’t send its people over here. The USA federal government,corporate America and our neighbors facilitate them getting here. The large resulting youth are here to support our economy and support our aging population.
MQ says:
If Santa Ana is any indication of our saviors, I think a lot of people will PASS!
As the reports have indicated FOOD STAMPS and welfare/government programs are going faster than the private sector.
Get real Doctor, If hispanic’s (south of the border) continue to stay on the path of underage pregnancies and drop out rate, the old will be going back to work to pay for the welfare of the ever growing young poor!
“incredibly stupid and irresponsible comment.”
My bad, I should have said, “Spoiled brat Mexicans”.
“We are encouraging folks to boycott only the non-Latino businesses in Costa Mesa.”
MQ says:
Yep, and we really let these people in by the million’s! Nice one America!
Keep the Cuban’s, Spanish etc…. Out of this, this is a Mexican fight with the rest of us!
“Historical Contributions of Hispanic/Mexican-American Veterans:”
MQ says:
How about the historical contributions of Americans and died for the country side by side of all races…. NO, need for the rest!
Good night folks and have a brilliant Memorial Weekend and say a pray for the American men/women who did so that you can spout your crap!
This is why I love this country ” the dull and the ignorant too have their say”.
Cheers:)
I love the latino race, beautiful people, but some are better than others!
Sorry for the typos, I always want to reply to my Mexican friends, but I do not always have the time to sit and carefully write…..
My bad!
🙂
Yeah, and now Mansoor’s political posturing has probably cost the City of Costa Mesa the last chance to preserve our Fairgrounds.
Although a lot of his political money has come from developers, even Guy Lemmon and Ken Fait the guys trying to buy it now are some of his largest donors.
Mansoor declared this without thinking about doing his job as Mayor. It was about getting elected to a higher office. You shouldn’t go off, with this type of BS when you are in direct negotiations with the state…..it’s bad politics and just plain stupid.
Not like Mansoor was ever going to be allowed to do anything if he ever got to Sacramento. He doesn’t work well with others…and will never sit at the “adults Table”.
Vote for Phu Ngyuen for CA 68………Mansoor is a crappy politician, but he loves those cushy government jobs!!!!
http://www.ocregister.com/news/mesa-250767-costa-fairgrounds.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0528-english-20100528,0,7015611.story
Yeah, these kids are going to be our saviors….
Stop worrying about stupid crap and use your energy to stop this!
MQ,
“How about the historical contributions of Americans and died for the country side by side of all races…. NO, need for the rest!
Good night folks and have a brilliant Memorial Weekend and say a pray for the American men/women who did so that you can spout your crap!”
Exactly, Mexican Americans died protecting the USA so a immigrant racist like can spew crap.
No one is minimizing others contributions to the USA military MQ. You questioned Mexicans contributions. You were educated on the fact that you are extremely uneducated on many levels .
“Get real Doctor, If hispanic’s (south of the border) continue to stay on the path of underage pregnancies and drop out rate, the old will be going back to work to pay for the welfare of the ever growing young poor!”
Your concerns are of poverty conditions not of culture. Your racist agenda is very clear. Yes MQ Mexicans are responsible to support you when you get old. How ironic. You are dependent on those you hate.
MQ
Posted May 28, 2010 at 8:12 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-0528-english-20100528,0,7015611.story
Yeah, these kids are going to be our saviors….
Stop worrying about stupid crap and use your energy to stop this!
MQ, what is the point of the artcle you present?
The article points out the following:
“The flaws in California’s English-language programs have placed hundreds of thousands of children in academic jeopardy, dashing their dreams for college and imperiling the state’s economic future, the study found.”
The issue is the education service to the students. It is not the students inability to perform as you want to imply.
YOUR RACISM IS VERY CLEAR.
Exactly, Mexican Americans died protecting the USA so a immigrant racist like can spew crap.
MQ says:
No, Americans died!
I am glad you remember I am an Immigrant! I am a proud immigrant who could not give a shit if you call me a racist, because I am not… and not even a brown, elitist like yourself could sway me on that, because I know that you are not an example of your race. In general most brown people are like me, WISE!
I know you cannot see anything but your culture and your race, I just see the flag that the soldiers hold….. When you grow up doctor you will understand!
I like the hispanic race, I just think the Mexicans are a little too used to being served and vulnerable…. How can I be dependent on people who are dependent on me paying my taxes so they can get their food stamps?
We could go back and forth all day, the truth is evident in the article I posted above…. Facts and figures cannot be ignored, even by you!
These kids are the new poor and there are thousands of them!
You keep ranting about the wonders of your culture and your race, I will use my voice to ask the questions, “what are we to do to improve the prospects of the Mexican kids”, so they come out: Doctor’s and Teachers instead of the prospect of becoming you’re and your friends new nannies and housekeepers.
You will never do anything good to promote the wellbeing of kids in this society that are failing, because you want to be liked by the Spanish elitist. The fact that they have F%^$&6 a native people over so long as evident by their lack of education and jobs back home is none too popular!
I don’t give a shit about the spanish elite, I don’t like them!
Watch out Doctor, you’re becoming one fast!
“In addition, the state’s English learners — 85% of whom speak Spanish — are often raised in linguistically isolated communities and many suffer from educational interruptions as their families move between countries.”Licha Gonzales, a counselor and
“herself a former English learner from Mexico, said other factors seem to be a student’s individual motivation and whether he or she was literate in another language before starting kindergarten. Students who could not read or write in their home language before starting U.S. schools seem to struggle more, Gonzales said.”
MQ says:
Doc,
Try to bring yourself to look at the whole article…. YOU CAN DO IT!
Pretend you are white/black/asian for a second… That might help!
MQ,
You are a bigoted moron focused on a delusion of Mexicans being your tormentors.
“You keep ranting about the wonders of your culture and your race,”
You keep spewing racist propaganda against Mexicans. So where is the problem. I have the right to my opinion as you do.
MQ
Posted May 28, 2010 at 10:35 AM
“In addition, the state’s English learners — 85% of whom speak Spanish — are often raised in linguistically isolated communities and many suffer from educational interruptions as their families move between countries.”Licha Gonzales, a counselor and
“herself a former English learner from Mexico, said other factors seem to be a student’s individual motivation and whether he or she was literate in another language before starting kindergarten. Students who could not read or write in their home language before starting U.S. schools seem to struggle more, Gonzales said.”
MQ says:
Doc,
Try to bring yourself to look at the whole article…. YOU CAN DO IT!
Pretend you are white/black/asian for a second… That might help!
MQ,
So from this are you saying Mexicans are geneticaly incapable of learning. The above only tells me their are challenges they face which can be overcomed.
Do you read something different?
“So from this are you saying Mexicans are geneticaly incapable of learning.”
MQ says:
What I am saying is; stop allowing the parents to fail their kids, except only the best from the kids and demand the districts to stop using the kids as a Golden ticket for federal Grants…….
No one is incapable of learning, every human being has the same size brain…give or take a few inches!
I am sure you took biology course’s to become a dentist?
Like I said before, I care more about education, you care more about, LAND SQUABBLES” and “tint”.
MQ,
Everyone wants what you posted above , including the parents of the children you fear.
So what is your concern then? These issues are correctable with inclusion and opportunity.
“Like I said before, I care more about education, you care more about, LAND SQUABBLES” and “tint”.”
Give examples where I argue “land” and minimize education. You can’t.
STOP YOUR LIES.
“Everyone wants what you posted above , including the parents of the children you fear.”
MQ says;
If the above is true, why then since YOU’RE such an advocate for your culture and your race have I spoken more about this disaster than you? You are so busy demonizing people who want to stop this cancer though their schools and communities, instead of teaming up and voicing your concern for the most important issue in this state as well as this nation the education of our kids.
Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!
This is not because of poverty, this is because they are not POOR enough to stand on their own two feet… Welfare does nothing for a family but make it weak!
No one wants to touch the fact that hispanics are the leading group of kids failing in schools because it’s “insensitive to one group”. As we continue to be a sensitive society to an ever failing population within our communities… the problem continues and guess what??? People start to get pissed!
So some of us sit back and watch are schools go under due to bad parenting and kids that would rather listen to Mexican rap music, than learn in school! Thats what the below mean’s!
Licha Gonzales, a counselor and herself a former English learner from Mexico, said other factors seem to be a student’s individual motivation and whether he or she was literate in another language before starting kindergarten. Students who could not read or write in their home language before starting U.S. schools seem to struggle more, Gonzales said.
In addition, the state’s English learners — 85% of whom speak Spanish — are often raised in linguistically isolated communities and many suffer from educational interruptions as their families move between countries.
Get off the Mexican Soap box Doc, It’s pointless! And for God sake if you speak Spanish start going into these title 1 schools and request what Obama requested, “TURN OFF YOUR SPANISH SPEAKING STATIONS”. GIVE THE KIDS A FRIGGIN CHANCE!
And my pet peeve, “Make a friggin lunch for your kids:, have you seen that awful public school food?? know wonder your kids are all fat!
So go ahead and boycott the businesses instead of boycotting the schools and scolding the parents!
See if it makes a difference to the hispanic community!
“This is not because of poverty, this is because they are not POOR enough to stand on their own two feet… Welfare does nothing for a family but make it weak!”
What are you trying to say here?
Are you saying that we are incapable of success?
“Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much? It’s really not about the legal status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
Are saying Mexicans generally are responsible for and produce “a lot of bad elements” any where we recide in and it is our culture?
MQ…MQ…MQ…
You state, “Keep the Cuban’s, Spanish etc…. Out of this, this is a [ MEXICAN ] fight with the rest of us!”
My Response:
Your bigotry and hatred of a group of people comes out loud and clear . . .
Hate is so Un-American…but it seems…so you.
I actually agree with you…That this is a “Mexican fight with the rest of “us””, and I would go further.
If by “us” you mean bigoted, ignorant and hateful people as your words demonstrate you to be…then you are correct
Mexican-Americans will fight you;
Hispanic-Americans will fight you;
Latino-Americans will fight you;
Irish-Americans will fight you;
Vietnamese-Americans will fight you;
Italian-Americans will fight you;
Polish-Americans will fight you;
African-Americans will fight you;
Native Americans will fight you;
Fair minded Americans and people of all shapes, colors or sizes will fight you, and all other bigoted, hateful, or ignorant people, here or in any part of the world, because bigotry and hate are un-American, and do not have a place in a civilized world.
MQ You state,
“Why the hell do you think people want the Mexicans ( NOT LATINOS) out of their neighborhoods so much?
My Response:
1) I am glad you “verbalized” your hatred against Mexicans in clear terms…as I said before, as distasteful as it is, I wish you and “your people” or like minded bigots would actually do that in your daily life.
It makes it easier to spot you. Covert racism, bigotry or hatred is the worst type.
And I am ACUALLY THANKFUL for your OPEN BIGOTRY or HATRED, although I do feel sad for you and those who hold bigoted and hateful views…such a sad life. Hatred of any group of people, rather than specific actions by specific individuals or of others usually stems from personal inadequacies . . . that is why I feel sad for you . . . but that is okay . . . in spite of hateful or bigoted people who complicate matters, the rest of us will continue to work on improving the community at large, and will continue to work on building and maintaining a better America.
MQ You state,
“It’s really not about the [ LEGAL ]status of these people so much as it is about the fact that they bring with them a lot of bad elements… crime, bad schools, welfare, dead beat dads!”
My Response:
Again, thank you!!!
Bigots and haters usually hide behind the it’s about being “illegal”, or some other made up “fact”.
But again, you made it clear. You and like minded bigots and haters, hate Mexicans because in YOUR MIND you have proscribed ALL the NEGATIVE stereotypes and all the NEGATIVE assumptions against a GROUP of people.
This is a common tactic of a bigot or a hater…
First demonize a group of people (whichever the group of choice happens to be), and portray them as parasites.
Second, fear-monger about this group of people, and this is made much easier with discredited or made up “facts”;
Third, incite Hate against this group of people,
Fourth, act on or compel others to act with hatred, bigotry against the group being scape-goated . . .and so much better if you deny this people any rights.
My hope and faith is always with my fellow Americans, because we tend to see through the hate and bigotry of any extremist.
Francisco “Paco” Barragan
Your bigotry and hatred of a group of people comes out loud and clear
MQ says.
What is loud and clear is that YOU Mr. F..like so many love the fact that the Native’s of Mexico are here, poor and uneducated and you and your kind would like to keep it that way…. The federal Government loves the so called victimized and so do you!
You are well educated Mr. F. But the Well educated are running the public school system!
Hey, someone has to help the poor, underserved and vulnerable and if a buck or two is made in the process… Well that good right?
If by “us” you mean bigoted, ignorant and hateful people as your words demonstrate you to be…then you are correct
Mexican-Americans will fight you;
Hispanic-Americans will fight you;
Latino-Americans will fight you;
Irish-Americans will fight you;
Vietnamese-Americans will fight you;
Italian-Americans will fight you;
Polish-Americans will fight you;
African-Americans will fight you;
Native Americans will fight you;
MQ says:
I hope not or Mexicans families will keep being the underserved and the vulnerable and you and many will continue to prey on them!
1) I am glad you “verbalized” your hatred against Mexicans in clear terms…as I said before, as distasteful as it is, I wish you and “your people” or like minded bigots would actually do that in your daily life.
MQ says:
Being told that you’re not welcome in someone house because of your bad behavior can be constructive…. You just then might think twice about, why you are not welcome!
Again I don’t hate anyone, I feel hatred should be left too idiots and ethnocentric s that teach stupid courses like “ethnic studies”,
I feel sad for the Mexican populations they have Men like you as their leaders and a country who’s Government gives them a bottle of water and a map to leave!
I’m not the president of Mexico asking another nation to take his people…… So you cannot really call him a racist but an A Hole would be a good term!
Keep serving your people with your NON-PROFITS (REALLY FOR PROFIT) and I will fight for them for free!
My words are not meant to create fuzzy feeling, it’s a reality check and since i have brought to this country a little of MY culture…I don’t know how to sugar the truth up!
MQ,
“My words are not meant to create fuzzy feeling, it’s a reality check and since i have brought to this country a little of MY culture…I don’t know how to sugar the truth up!”
The culture you brought over is bigotry and hatred.
“What is loud and clear is that YOU Mr. F..like so many love the fact that the Native’s of Mexico are here, poor and uneducated and you and your kind would like to keep it that way…. ”
What a stupid and irresponsible comment.
Many poor and uneducated are working with assistance from people like Francisco so they are able to be productive citizens and support your racist butt when it gets old.
The culture you brought over is bigotry and hatred.
MQ says:
My culture is the same CULTURE that fought and died for your Culture because they thought they were doing the right thing. They did not care about your race as I don’t… But unlike my ancestors, I am siding with America this time because it is the right thing to do.
“Many poor and uneducated are working with assistance from people like Francisco so they are able to be productive citizens and support your racist butt when it gets old.”
MQ says:
IF you mean STEPPING UP, this is an Organization that buys building cheap, then turns around and rents them out to illegal immigrants using governmental subsides. Sounds like a great business dealing to me. You buy cheap real estate then use federal/state money to pay for them!
Lets not get into the Non-profit thing again, I am still learning so much about Orange County NOT-FOR-PROFITS…
Man, if only I had thought of that!
“What a stupid and irresponsible comment.”
What is stupid and irresponsible is why this sort of use of tax payer money has been abused.. I suppose the hope is, “no one is looking”.
Don’t worry about my butt, I am a responsible individual that is not relying on Socical Security, because i know it is not going to be around!
You better start putting money into that retirement account!
“IF you mean STEPPING UP, this is an Organization that buys building cheap, then turns around and rents them out to illegal immigrants using governmental subsides. ”
I believe they rent to anyone. They do not service illegal immigrants only. In other words they do not discriminate. Does this offend you.
My understanding is that if some sources of Federal monies are used a requirement exists where proof of legal residence is necessary.
Continue with the misinformation to incite hate.
believe they rent to anyone. They do not service illegal immigrants only. In other words they do not discriminate. Does this offend you.
MQ says:
They service who ever they federally they can, in Orange County and most of California, that happens to be illegal immigrants… The poor!
All the Block grants, etc… all federal monies just waiting to be snapped up for of course the needy!
As far as legal residence goes it can be a childs birth cert!
Keep asking the questions and you can call them to see if I have given you the correct answer’s!
I love the one where they can buy foreclosures from the banks FIRST, before you or are I can. WHAT A DEAL AH!
Or oh yeah, they own properties out right, thats right they bought them using fed money and rent them out – clear profit… O but it goes right in to pay for all the needs of the employees and of course house the poor needy families of America!
Those 501’s must have been the brain child of madoff?
There is nothing hateful about the truth!
Good night, I am off to have some well deserved fun…unless someone lyes down in the street and blocks the traffic because they the want it all for nothing!
🙂
It’s funny MQ mentions social security….you know….that one program that undocumented workers pay into and will never see a penny of giving it an absolute net boon. (so much for being dregs)
“They service who ever they federally they can, in Orange County and most of California, that happens to be illegal immigrants… The poor!
All the Block grants, etc… all federal monies just waiting to be snapped up for of course the needy!”
An absolute lie. But then MQ is all about posting lies in order to demonise for the propagation of hate.
“Good night, I am off to have some well deserved fun…unless someone lyes down in the street and blocks the traffic because they the want it all for nothing!”
Maybe your day may get ruined not by you running over a citizen or not using their right to protest and instead you get hurt for by the crowd you would be trying to hurt or by your insinuation KILL.
MQ IS EVOLVING IN HER HATE!!!!!!!!!!!!
an absolute lie. But then MQ is all about posting lies in order to demonise for the propagation of hate.
Really, In Orange unified school district they advertised a YOUTH PROGRAM!
I called to see what type of program it was: A block grant which was not a youth program, but a free day care with meals for 3 schools. This supposed YOUTH PROGRAM ended up being only for parents of the 3 all title one schools and of course all of them full with hispanic parents… As stated to me, “that’s the poor in orange and they get the places!”
I demanded they take the program out of the OUSD newspaper or advertise it as it really was – Another program free to illegal immigrants !
Every program for Orange County healthy families commission is geared toward illegal immigrants and their children including but not limited too: HABLA, bridges for newborns,2-1-1 orange county, healthy smilies for kids Orange County, LEAN start, ECSOC, CUIDAR,PROJECT CONNECTIONS FRC (FAMILY RESOURCE CENTERS) centers that connect illegal immigrants who have had children in the US with food stamps, Calworks, Caloptima,etc….
So Doc, you want to keep going…
If anyone wants to do the homework I have done – Children and families commission orange county Current funded program April 2008 – 2009 is the same!
Evaluation of Orange county’s community Access program
(prepared for orange county uninsured initiatives project)
This is just a drop in the bucket!
Hate is such as strong word for being ripped off, I would say more like “PISSED”.
I have friends who work two jobs to pay for child care, they cannot get any assistance, they are not ILLEGAL!
Stop your crap Doc, there are a lot of very pissed off and frustrated parents that know for a fact being illegal = someone else pays!
Why don’t we just institute the same laws and rules Mexico, Venezuela, Canada, etc., have
for illegal immigrants…….oh wait, that would mean they actually care about legal v. illegal
immigration. Darn racists and bigots they must be. Fact is that almost every other nation in
the world pays attention to legal v. illegal immigration, including our neighbors to the north
and south. Strongly pay attention to it, and enforce the laws. It’s not racist to want to enforce existing laws re: illegal immigratiion. Tell that to the millions around the world waiting to get into the USA legally every single day. Tough luck guys!
Costa Mesa is not doing anything illegal. Actually, I know this is difficult to comprehend, San Francisco is. A ‘sanctuary’ city for people intentionally breaking the law is somewhat illegal.
Moreover, I blame the federal govt. of the USA and Mexico for failing to do their jobs. Mexico for failng the hard working people of Mexico, by falling back on corruption and drug cartels &
illegal immigration year after year…instead of fighting back. The USA for wanting to maintain
a 4th class citizen, with a wink and a nod to an open border. Don’t blame Arizona or Costa
Mesa or Oklahoma (w/a similar law on the books for years, like 38 other states). Blame the
feds of two nations for failing to do their jobs.