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While the rest of us have been distracted with Wisconsin, Sacramento, Costa Mesa and – Jesus – Japan, our fine friends at the Voice of OC have thankfully been following up on that horrific Yorba Linda anti-Muslim hate rally we all saw recently on the unforgettable CAIR video. Here it is again, if you haven’t seen it or want to again – that “lover of free public access to political events” George Collins (who shot some of the footage) has been trying to bury it for weeks, but once these things “go viral,” that’s a toothpaste-back-into-the-tube situation.
And this monster Deborah Pauly (at 1:27) is more pathetic the more we get to know her. You heard her above, speaking generally about all the local American Muslims who would be congregating there within the hour:
“Let me tell you, what’s going on over there right now [pointing toward community center] make no bones about it – that is pure unadulterated evil.”
“You know what, this is the bad seed. Make no mistake – and you know what I’m talking about. This is the bad seed, and we are in the middle of a fight for our lives. The fight for the future of our country.”
“I have a wonderful 19-year old son who’s a United States Marine. As a matter of fact I know quite a few Marines who will be happy to help these terrorists [pointing toward community center] to an early meeting in paradise.”
NOW her story, predictably, is that she was ONLY referring to a couple of controversial speakers who were scheduled to be at the event, Imam Siraj Wahhaj and Amir Abdel Malik Ali, whom Congressmen Royce and Miller also criticized. (The Congressmen’s presentations were also reprehensible in their own ways, but not to the degree of Debbie’s.)
But WHY did she not mention these two speakers, why didn’t she make it clear that she was referring just to them, not to all the innocent Muslim men women and children in attendance? Well… and here Debbie broke down in tears explaining to the Voice of OC – She was *sob* scared – scared that if she mentioned their names, they would KILL her!
Let that sink in. To start with, here’s a woman, a bully who’s a woman, who turns on the tears to get sympathy. And in her terror (yeah, she looks real terrified in that video) she disperses her rancid hate and death threats to an entire peaceful religious minority instead of the two controversial speakers. And this supposedly petrified specimen of femininity is an Air Force veteran living in one of the safest towns in the County, on top of a hill, probably in a two-story house bristling with firearms. This woman calls herself a Tea-Partier but she would make Ben Franklin and Tom Paine puke.
But who are we kidding though, that’s just her new story, she wasn’t really afraid of these guys. Exhibit One: What sort of mother brags about her “beautiful young daughter” to a group of swarthy foreign men she thinks are going to attack her? No, Deborah Pauly is merely that same combination of bat-guano insane and full-of-shit that we recognize from her role models Palin and Bachmann.
George Collins hides his original, unedited video of the rally… WHY???
So, the fellow who filmed the Republican politicians’ speeches you saw above – that’s George Collins, videographer and perennial Santa Ana Mayoral candidate – has been forcing down every YouTube version of the above clip, due to his copyright. That’s his right, I know he doesn’t like how CAIR chose only the most outrageous comments from Pauly, Royce and Miller – although of course that’s how you edit things when you’re trying to make a point.
But I’m surprised this week to go to his site, Santa Ana TV, and see even the original unedited 60-minute video of this rally gone, which is a real pain because I wanted to see it all in context again – especially organizer Karen Lugo’s comments. So I called George, who is none too friendly to me, but at least takes my calls. He claims that it’s no longer up to him, that the video now “belongs to someone else” and that if they give him permission he’ll put it up again. He says this is very complicated, and that’s all he can tell me, and, “Thank you very much, guy.”
So I guess the speakers on that video – including two Republican Congressmen – consider their remarks that evening, even in full context, to be embarrassing, and want them hidden. Good to know, and good to know Mr. Collins would assist them in that. I wonder if payment was involved. And here, folks like “Junior” keep telling me how much Collins cares about making political events available to the general public. I guess there are limits to that…
Meanwhile back in sleepy Villa Park…
Deborah Pauly’s four council colleagues are obviously getting way more than fed up with the unwanted publicity she’s bringing to this little upscale town, which most of the world had never heard of before. Last year during the big anti-Mexican craze, Deb tried to jump on the Arizona bandwagon by having her Council endorse SB 1070. The four other mellow, moderate Republicans turned her down, contending correctly that it wasn’t a local issue and would only be divisive. Deb spent the next few months in a snit, touring other city’s Council meetings, trying to get THEM to do it, and bitching about how ashamed she was of her Villa Park colleagues.
The feeling is exceedingly mutual, it seems. As peaceful little Villa Park began to turn up in the news as the burgh from whence this howling Islamophobe wench sprung, Council met to determine how to publicly distance themselves from Pauly. Tuesday last, they released the following statement, which diplomatically avoids mention of her name, but clearly is intended as a condemnation of her if you read it carefully (emphases mine) :
“Comments made by Villa Park City Council members in public do not represent the City of Villa Park unless made with City Council approval.The Villa Park City Council and the community support the Constitutional right to freedom of religion. We also condemn violence and threats of violence, and terrorism and threats of terrorism. Furthermore, we oppose any individual or group whose opinion runs counter to these values.”
Maybe the poor Villa Park teachers should mention that next time Deb forces her way into a Villa Park school to make the kids listen to her anti-Muslim rants – they could say, “Children, this lady is on our City Council… but the other Councilpersons think she’s insane!”
OC GOP, you have a problem…
You guys chose this unhinged, blubbering psychopath as “first Vice Chair,” over honest, plain-spoken, fellow tea-partier Allan 
Bartlett, who realizes that there’s only so many minorities you can demonize and piss off before your party shrivels into a vestigial remnant of itself. Did I say plain-spoken? Allan supplied the Voice of OC with this quote: “You have a lot of people (in the GOP) that want to kill – it seems to me – they want to kill all Muslims. I don’t criticize [Deborah’s] right to be there, but it has generated publicity that I don’t think — our party could do better as far as messaging right now.”
When Pauly heard of this comment from her TP rival she shot back that it was “incredibly irresponsible,” and “a very dangerous thing to say.” Yeah, more dangerous than her vituperative mouthing-off, which has been heard around the world, right.
Meanwhile your OC GOP is led by THIS beacon of moral clarity, newly union-bashing lobbyist Scott Baugh, who responds: “In Democracy — in a country with free speech — at rallies a lot of things are said. I wouldn’t read too much into it.” That’s right, don’t read too much into the Party’s first vice chair calling one of the world’s great religions “pure unadulterated evil” and wishing its adherents “an early meeting in Paradise.” Bold, Scott.
Maybe a good go-to guy for an unambiguous OC GOP statement would be devious pollster Adam Probolsky? Well, the Voice reporter evidently thought so, and came back with: “The news of the day is not what makes up the activity of the day of the Republican Party.” Really, what?? Later Adam clarified himself: “It’s just Deb Pauly. Same crazy stuff.” Oh. Okay then. OC GOP, you have a problem.
And, on the Irony-coughs-up-blood front…
The organizer and emcee of the event, Yorba Linda resident Karen Lugo – whom, if you had a chance to see Collins’ video before he hid it, you would have heard saying things like, “When we have a group that is asking for special preferences and special treatment, it is not a matter of discrimination to say no when a group is less than one percent of our population,” turns out to be … wait for it … on California’s State Advisory Committee for the US Civil Rights Commission! (hit play)
Let me repeat that: Karen Lugo, the organizer and emcee of the rally, advises the US Civil Rights Commission! (hit play)
Ms. Lugo is also an “Adjunct Professor of Law” at Chapman University, president of the Orange County Chapter of the Federalist Society (which spawned Don “Spanky” Wagner) and a protege of wingnut failed AG candidate John Eastman (whom we recently followed around Long Beach.) I have been trying to contact her to ask her how she feels about how the rally turned out, and also who recommended her for the Commission, but it’s been hard to get through to her. One of her major jihads before now has been defending Disneyland’s ban on employees wearing Muslim garb.
“It is a matter of something very importance to our culture and society to tell a corporation like Disneyland, ‘We support you in keeping your culture and in not allowing the hijab to be worn as part of an employee’s garb.’”
– Karen Lugo, rally organizer, “civil rights commissioner” and Chapman Adjunct Law Professor
How the GOOD people of the OC are dealing with this.
When I saw the CAIR video, my first reaction was that I wish I had known that protest was happening, so I could get together with other good tolerant Americans and express support for the Muslim crowd, while showing them that most of us actually aren’t assholes. Turns out a lot of other folks were thinking the same thing, and ONE of them actually decided to organize such a coalition. Vicki Tamoush has now started a group called “Interfaith Witnesses,” which had its first meeting Wednesday at the Orange County Friends (Quakers) Meeting Hall:
Interfaith Witnesses Planning Meeting: Many of you wrote to CAIR or expressed on the Face Book and email your disgust at the actions of several elected officials and others outside an ICNA fundraiser in Yorba Linda last month. A team of “Interfaith Witnesses…” is being formed to respond to such events in the future. Please note that we will not engage or confront harassers in any way at any time. (You will be asked to commit to this before you participate at future events.) This meeting will be held to briefly explain the concept and form geographical teams of Interfaith Witnesses. ALL people of ALL faiths, clergy and laity, are encouraged to attend: INTERFAITH WITNESSES Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:00 p.m. at Orange County Friends Meeting 2091 Business Center Drive, Suite 100 Irvine, California, 92612 Here’s their website, with directions, etc. http://www.orangecountyquakers.org/ For information: (714) 362-7676 or (714) 368-5100 If you are interested in holding a similar organizational meeting in your area, please call.
And there’s this too, coming up:
Anti-HATE Rally for PEACE, Villa Park City Hall
Tuesday March 22, 6pm
17855 Santiago Boulevard, Villa Park, CA 92861
Join NOW to protest the hate and demand that:
* The city of Villa Park CENSURE Ms. Deborah Pauly & that she publicly APOLOGIZE for her hate statements.
* Rep. Gary Miller, Rep. Ed Royce & Councilman John Anderson apologize for their comments against the Muslims.
* The Republican Party end its silence and address growing anti-Islamic sentiment amongst its representatives.
Vern says: “Villa-fy!”
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[Late PS. The anti-Muslims have responded to the CAIR video with their own video, here. The video is somewhat irrelevant, mostly consisting of radical things ONE speaker, Malik-Ali has said. Why he’d be chosen as a speaker for a charity event by ICNA I have no idea, but I plan to ask them today. They evidently couldn’t find ANY damaging material about the other “controversial” speaker, Imam Siraj Wahhaj, who in 1991 was the first Muslim to deliver an invocation to the House of Representatives. In any case the reason I say the new video is irrelevant is because both Pauly’s rant and the mob scene following it had nothing to do with the speakers but were directed at the peaceful, devout attendees. And for the record, $60,000 was raised that night, all of which stayed in the US, went to legitimate charity purposes and is strictly accounted for.]
Comrade Vern, I love this post!!!!……. the Winshipism is way to go.
Caveat: Please stop taking Potassium Iodide it may be harmful.
As to why “George Collins hides his original, unedited video of the rally… WHY???”
Knowing George, I believe that he is concerned that someone may violate his copy rights.
How about paying him $1,000 to obtain legal copy….. lets start fundraiser.
Do you have donation account#?
Ms Pauly hasn’t been paying attention to the news the last few weeks. Lots of Muslims yearn for freedom and democracy like, you know, we Americans enjoy, and were so Hell-bent on shoving down their throats in Iraq not so long ago. She should join forces with the Westboro Baptists. She’s really good at shaking her fists at law-abiding people, and exercising her freedom of speech.
We have a Quaker Friends Meeting Hall in MasterPlannedistan? Cool!
I wonder how Spanky would react if we were to build a mosque at the Not So Great Park? Couple that with a Wiccan festival and watch the heads of the wingnuts from Mariners and Saddleback explode. That sight might actually bring some excitement to the Shades of Beige resort.
I like Allan Bartlett a lot. Had a wonderful conversation with him and 48th District Libertarian candidate for Congress Mike Binkley at the 70th AD debate last fall at UCI. He seemed to be receptive to my idea of a cannabis hemp farm cooperative at the Not So Great Park. A real green industry that would create jobs and stimulate the economic tax base in MasterPlannedistan in more ways than one. Or as I called it “Compassionate Capitalism.” He was more personable than Spanky. Then again, a boll weevil is more personable than Spanky.
Master Plannedistan. Brilliant.
But you’re gonna get Dan Cherminowki pissed off.
The “journalist” Dan Chimpanzeelewski exemplifies the motto that most MasterPlannedistan citizens live by: “Living the Dream.” As in the deep slumber that most everyone seems to be in as Boss Agran, Donald Bren and their merry brand of corporatist thieves pull fast ones with our local tax dollars. All in the name of “redevelopment.”
How do you think Boss Agran keeps getting re-elected?
Want an example? Take a visit to the Not So Great Park.
Allan Bartlett is a f++king idiot – he is toast in the GOP – I don’t think that he cares about that anymore. He is a moron – everything he touches turns to s**t.
You are wrong junior. The ‘pugs that run the party in OC are plenty pissed at Allan because he’s a principled, straight-shooter and not in it for what he can rake off the top. But Allan has quite a lot of support among the bank benchers.
junior, don’t be a ‘pug.
“(Barlett) is a moron – everything he touches turns to s**t”
I think you have him mistaken for Scott Baugh.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is29KAIHXfA
“The video is somewhat irrelevant, mostly consisting of radical things ONE speaker, Malik-Ali has said. Why he’d be chosen as a speaker for a charity event by ICNA I have no idea, but I plan to ask them today.”
Good luck getting a straight answer Vern. This should be interesting – can’t wait to hear their response.
Switch “today” to Monday – I wrote this Friday and ran out of time. I know you won’t let me forget!
Still, I’m going to keep repeating – it IS a secondary or tertiary matter, unrelated to the pure Islamophobia shown by the mob, and Pauly.
“Still, I’m going to keep repeating – it IS a secondary or tertiary matter, unrelated to the pure Islamophobia shown by the mob, and Pauly.”……. Hmmmm
I understand that as a socialist you are atheist!…… why are you concern about the Islam religion comrade Vern?
You would throw Christians to lions as communists and atheists do and here you are huffing and puffing about the Islam and Judaism……. Why?
I do not see you doing same for the other religions.
My take on your activism is that you are opportunist and want to get some visibility because the Islam, Jews and homosexuals create public nuisance so you show-up to solicit for beer.
Sometimes your babble really irritates me, brother Stan. When did I ever throw Christians to the lions? I’m concerned with defending peaceful, oppressed minorities, and America’s religious freedom. My fellow Christians aren’t in any danger in the USA.
Sometimes truth is irritating, however, there is nothing I can do about that comrade Vern.
“I’m concerned with defending peaceful, oppressed minorities, and America’s religious freedom. My fellow Christians aren’t in any danger in the USA.”…… Hmmm.
1) Islam is religion solely design to kill Christians and other “infidels” who will not convert to Islam no matter how much you want to romanticize it…. even communists and socialists which is a OK with me.
2) The 911 and hundreds of other terrorist killings of Christians clearly shown that Christians are in danger in the USA.
3) There, is not one single USA imam who would publicly, in writing, condemn so called militant and terrorist Islam. Show me a link to one who did.
4) Islam brutalize even its own family, prohibits bill of rights without which a modern society cant exist and you are protecting that?…. I thing you are relay sick because you are against your own country and constitution.
Freedom of religion does not allow bigamy Islam does.
I believe that I have gave you more IQ credits than you do actually deserve deserve. So back to IQ=50.
Someone else can respond to your ignorant nonsense. Or not.
Obviously you are speechless since there are no defenses to your treasonous behavior.
@ Stan
with respect to #3, CAIR the main American-Islamic organization has consistently and continously condemned terrorism
http://www.cair.com/AmericanMuslims/AntiTerrorism.aspx
You can dowload their 68 page report detailing all of this.
“.. it IS .. unrelated to the pure Islamophobia shown by the mob, and Pauly.”
It IS directly related to the organized rally to decry the Islamists who want to destroy this country.
I ask your readers to watch the video and decide for themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is29KAIHXfA
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Stan’s right Junior.
Substitute “ISLAM” for Jew and you have a whole other enchilada to eat.
Why not the same “outrage” when the maniac bible thumpers hold fund raisers to stop planned parenthood with speakers who themselves could be described as “terroists”? It’s ok if you are promoting abotion killers??
This has nothing to do with ISLAM and everything to do with fear and not understanding cultures. Get out of Santa Ana sometime and see the world as it is.
I have probably seen more world that you have “dkmfan”…. what ever you are hiding behind that antonym….. coward.
Same lake Nelson only thing you have are socialists’ talking points.
Q: Who would you like to meet in dark alley a person holding Bible or Koran? ….. assuming that you are holding sign criticizing and ridiculing their religion based on your First Amendment rights…… Huh?
Stan, You missed, misunderstood or ignored my point:
It doesn’t matter what book you are holding. Crazy people are crazy. You of all people should understand that, It does not matter if you are Chez, Mexican, Indian, Punjabi or from Baltimore.
I especially liked the sign that read:
“One Nation Under God, Not Allah”
Last time I checked Jesus, Allah and Buhdda all were equals. At least in this country. Maybe not in the homeland.
As for how “WORDLY” you are compared to me…….you certainly don’t act like it. But thats ok, I live by a simple motto: “Pravda vítězí”.
*One thing is for sure…….Islam has no cowboy’s but a lot of Indians…..Since this is America..
we might suggest the following:
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Artist: Keith Toby
Song: Should’ve Been a Cowboy
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I bet you’ve never heard ole Marshall Dylan say
Miss Kitty have you ever thought of running away
Settling down would you marry me
If I ask you twice and beg you pretty please
She’d of said Yes in a New York minute
They never tied the knot
His heart wasn’t in it
He just stole a kiss as he road away
He never hung his hat up, at Kitty’s place
I shoulda been a cowboy
I shoulda learned to rope and ride
Wearing my six-shooter, riding my pony, on a cattle drive
Stealing young girl’s hearts
Just like Gene and Roy
Singing those campfire songs
Oh, I should’ve been a cowboy
I might of had a side kick with a funny name
Running wild through the hills chasing Jesse James
Ending up on the brink of danger
Riding shotgun for the Texas Rangers
Go west young man, haven’t you been told
California’s full of whiskey, women and gold
Sleeping out all night beneath the desert stars
With a dream in my eye, and a prayer in my heart
I shoulda been a Cowboy
I shoulda learned to rope and ride
Wearing my six-shooter, riding my pony on a cattle drive
Stealing young girl’s hearts
Just like Gene and Roy
Singing those campfire songs
Oh, I should’ve been a cowboy
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hz0EXXZU8g
However, where are dead Indians?
We got a real Orange Juice Freak Show going on here this morning… what will I tell the guests?
Just do what you do best comrade Vern, entertain!……. and play and sing:
“You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave OJ.”
Thanks for posting this. Great work!
Two Trustees just lawyered up at the last special meeting and refused to participate in the vote to cure and correct a supposed brown act violation. What’s up with that. Their flipping out down here Vern. Sue and Ellen have lost it.
Call me or e-mail me, you know my contact info….. I’ve been busy on so many other things as you can see.
I heard that Brick and Bryson were working pretty well with the new Capo Children First members, so there’s a de facto 5-member majority of nice reasonable people… what damage can the other two do? Well, don’t answer here, I don’t want to hijack this thread…
Orange County will soon be known nationally as the home of the harpy and the leprechaun.
Pauly and Monahan compete to make us a laughingstock for the nation.
I heard about this anti-Muslim rally, but this is the first I saw of the video. I cannot express how upset it made me feel to see this. How can these insane people justify SCREAMING at random Muslims to “go home” and “you’re not welcome here”? No this hatred was NOT directed toward specific real terrorists, but at any and all Muslims. I will make sure everyone I know sees this horrible video to witness the pure hatred and racism going on in our backyards.
Jake,
It was not an anti-Muslim rally – it was a protest against (2) speakers at the fund raiser who support terrorists.
In no way am I justifying the yelling and screaming at women and children. However, these were 2 separate events. It is not fair to connect the peaceful rally to denounce the (2) terrorist supporting speakers with the obscene protestors across the street. What has become of fairness in this country?
BTW – have you seen this video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is29KAIHXfA
This video shows that the real hatred was inside the fundraiser. You watch that video and tell me that that hateful speaker does not deserve to be protested against – that is a challenge to you. Why would any group subject their children to the violent, hateful, racist rhetoric of that speaker?
Oh, give up.
Vern said:
“The video is … mostly consisting of radical things ONE speaker, Malik-Ali has said. Why he’d be chosen as a speaker for a charity event by ICNA I have no idea, but I plan to ask them today.”
Waiting here Vern ………….
junior,
Don’t hold your breath. Even if Vern does contact ICNA, he won’t get an honest response. Check out the Register today for Mickadeit’s column where he quotes Amir Abdel Malik-Ali, one of the speakers at the event that night, previously telling Muslim UCI students that if Jews in Israel are willing to be martyrs, they need to be as well: “They (Jews) know this is a new day. … What do we do? Might be another 9/11.” And that’s just one of his many very public anti-Semitic and violent rantings that ICNA had to be aware of. Good luck defending the invite with any sense of rationality. But then rationality doesn’t always matter in the discussion on here.
“it was a protest against (2) speakers”
Really? So when Pauly stated that her jarhead son wanted to send them to heaven that really could be construed as a specific death threat, couldn’t it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is29KAIHXfA
Vern,
I challenge you to view the Youtube video posted above and answer two questions.
Does the violent, hateful racist rhetoric of Malik-Ali deserve a response? And if so – what type of response would you feel is appropriate?
Thousands of Christians have been forced to flee their homes in Western Ethiopia after Muslim extremists set fire to roughly 50 churches and dozens of Christian homes; after a Christian was accused of desecrating the Koran.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/24/thousands-christians-displaced-ethiopia-muslim-extremists-torch-churches-homes-2057387870/
Vern said:
“The video is … mostly consisting of radical things ONE speaker, Malik-Ali has said. Why he’d be chosen as a speaker for a charity event by ICNA I have no idea, but I plan to ask them today.”
Still waiting here Vern ………….
“And here, folks like “Junior” keep telling me how much Collins cares about making political events available to the general public. I guess there are limits to that…”
Vern,
Isn’t it ironic that these are the same folks that routinely complain about a “lack of transparency” by Santa Ana officials.
while everyone knows Art Pedroza sold his soul to the city council for $6,000, just how much of that did you get Sean? The again Sean, you have lots of anti-Muslim hatred coursing through your veins.
I see one of the LibOC’s sock puppets has come out to play. Is that you Dan? Chris? Claudio? Or is it you Thomas? Did you guys give up on posting as “DKMFAN”?
When will you ever have the courage to post using your real name? Silly of me to even ask.