1. Torches, Pitchforks, Rumors, and Racism
Today has been the first regular work day after the news broke that Brea-Olinda High School math teacher Michelle Johnson, was arrested for allegedly, and let’s remember to include that word, having sexual relations (of some sort) with one or two male students. I’m pretty sure that it has been a big topic of water cooler discussion. I say that based on just one bit of evidence — it was a big topic of discussion at my wife’s workplace in Central Anaheim, a place that has little to do with either public education or Brea. If it dominated conversation there, without my wife (a Brea-Olinda High School parent) having been the one to bring it up, it probably did so in much of the county.
In my previous story on the then-breaking scandal involving I looked at some of the scummy “attaboy” reactions to the news of an alleged teacher-student affair. Today, we’ll have a little more of that — but we’ll also look at how the scandal-stoking machine operates in the OC blogosphere. (As with many things about OC, lots of places do it; we just happen to be really good at it.) Chances are that most readers aren’t following the Weekly’s comments section, so this is a chance for you to see what many people are reading. Here are excerpts of the conversations there:
BreaWildcat: In her 2012 yearbook photo she [Michelle Johnson] says:
“If I had super powers, I’d go back in line and re-live my Twenties!”. This is a women who hangs at Panera with her students, tweets jokes and likes the boys in her class to call her Mom. FREEPER: Female Creeper.
anonymous1891: Both Male and Female students call her Mom because she has two popular children at the school, she tutors at Panera without pay. These accusations came the day after seniors final grades were submitted, suspicious. No charges have been filed. Wait for the whole story to come out.
BreaWildcat: Clearly you believe in Mrs. Johnson and support her. It is always hard when you find out someone you respect is a child molester.
It would be easier to believe if she had been accused before and there were not more than one victim this time. Even more creepy is her daughters former boyfriend! And HIS FATHER CALLED THE COPS, not exactly the makings of another BOHS grading scandal.
No charges have been filed because she is a member of the POWERFUL CTA,’s which could bring BOUSD to it’s knees once again.
anonymous1891: I don’t know the details and knowing her for a very long time I find all of this hard to believe, but am just waiting to see if charges are brought against her and what the district’s investigation brings. CTA did not stop a Brea teacher that was arrested but never charge (after threatening a student) from getting fired a few years back. I just would like to hear more facts. An teenage ex-boyfriend can do some crazy stuff. There are websites to fabricate text messages, we don’t know the facts just the gossip.
BreaWildcat: [In response to my suggestion that OC Weekly would have been better off closing comments than inviting the sort of comments that they quickly received] I think that’s what the school district [wants people?] to do. Some people knew about this a week ago, but they waited to arrest her until the last day of school!
Staff KNEW.
Keeping it quiet appears to be exactly what they wanted.
anonymous1891: Who knew about this a week ago? You are just spreading gossip with no facts what so ever.
BreaWildcat: The staff at BOHS, Canyon and Brea Junior High, as well.
Further, reports from the BPD were leaked by a students parent, who in turn began the rumor mill. It wasn’t however, until an uninvolved witness (to the second event) came forward and approached Principal Halpin that things started moving, including the arrest which was discussed with BOTH district officials and the OCDA, and determined bet conducted right before school was released.
There are memo’s out there regarding this to staff dated as early as 6/5/13.
You are the one with no facts, request a police report, request full disclosure from Halpin and the school district (pretty hard now that he’ll be away for the summer!).
THE STAFF KNEW AND KEPT IT UNDER WRAPS.
OC_Teacher: You should clarify that “staff” does NOT mean “faculty”. Your assertion that so many people were in the know prior to the arrest is 100% FALSE. Most of the BOHS faculty and student body did NOT know who the teacher and minor were until well after being informed Thursday morning of an arrest the previous evening. Admin. and support staff knew, yes, but you’re making it sound like there was a school-wide conspiracy to protect the teacher or keep the arrest under wraps, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE.
I support due process, however, if I knew about this, before so did MANY OTHERS. OC Teacher has not divulged his name, likely for the same reason I can’t.
I never said people LOVE to protect teaches who RAPE students, I think they like to avoid controversy. How else do you explain the two MALE coaches who were removed in the past 18 months for “inappropriate” contact, one of whom coaches in South OC, while still dating the BOHS graduate (now an 18 year old)?
Simply put, district and school officials were equally concerned with “fall out” and “damage control” as they were about the safety of the student(s) involved.
BreaWildcat: It was common knowledge, there was a detailed discussion at BOHS about whether the suspects Son would walk (he didn’t) at graduation. In defense to your suggestion, there was FAR more concern for the Son then there was the suspect.
I believe you and perhaps some others were not aware that a colleague was suspected of child molesting, but that is my point, WHY NOT?
This is not the first such allegation, surely you are aware of that…….
vegandawg23: Hope teacher’s like this are still around when my boy turns 14. Save me the trouble of taking him down to TJ. [Gustavo calls him vile in response to this; I tell Gustavo that this was an example of why to close comments. That gets the reaction below.]
vegandawg23: What’s your problem anyways? If you don’t like the comments on such an article stop scrolling down after you read the article. As if by magic the comments disappear for you.
Gustavo can’t take a joke. Unlike you he is a moderator and could have deleted mine or anyone else’s comment he didn’t like. I respect him for allowing open dialogue. You however are some kinda control freak who wants to control what people say on the internet. This isn’t your classroom or church jerkoff.
gregdiamond: “If you don’t like the comments on such an article stop scrolling down…”
Not caring about something so long as you can’t see it? Pretty unusual for a vegan. Common for a dog, though.
One of Gustavo’s better features is his willingness to call out racist assholes most of the time. Racist assholery, especially from someone without the guts to sign their name to it, isn’t “open dialogue,” it’s flinging poo.
vegandawg23: And what about my comments is racist? !? Think you need to visit one of the OC Weekly’s sponsors in the back and lighten up. Nothing I said in my comments on this story was remotely racist.
Also a racist would go to a white hooker in Vegas instead of supporting non-white’s in TJ or an Asian (any hapa ones around?) one in thailand in my case. By your stupid ideology I’m thinking you don’t even believe non-whites can be racist. You’re likely some teacher at the school in question. Probably social studies from your comments.
Ever consider that all these people you’re screaming “racism” at in your comments just don’t give a crap about PC thought police such as yourself and in reality don’t have a problem with anyone?
gregdiamond: “Nothing I said in my comments on this story was remotely racist.”
Admittedly, you’re less of a racist than you are an idiot, a coward, and a great reason to close comments sometimes. But … still a racist.
Believing that going to a prostitute of a given race makes you not a racist is nuts. No wonder you stay anonymous.
gregdiamond: Why close comments? Because their nature was so likely to be exactly what we’ve seen here.
Then again, a minority of comments were also always likely to be politically motivated crap like yours, so in a way I suppose that balances out all of the “attaboy” comments.
I don’t think we have to worry about a cover-up. I do think that we have to worry about demagogues like you who anonymously post salacious rumors but still expect what they say to be treated with respect..
P.S. No idea what you mean by “your girlfriends Mom.” Was she a parent of a girl at BOHS? If not, then what are you talking about? On second thought, don’t bother answering.
BreaWildcat: Politically motivated crap?
A Young man was SEXUALLY ABUSED! Who are you? Perhaps if you had children involved you would feel differently. Perhaps not, you sound like a blind defender, likely a staff member yourself.
Victim #1 was the former boyfriend of the suspects daughter, the “best friend” of the Son. the Son was unable to “walk” at graduation because of the scandal, that in it. Victim #2 is a close friend of his as well.
I don’t know who GREGDIAMOND is, but clearly he wants to point blame at the victim(s). His statement: “I don’t think we need to worry about a cover up” is most troubling. I think WE NEED to worry about a cover up.
gregdiamond: Who am *I*? My name is right out there. Who are YOU? Why would you feel the need for anonymity given that you’re on the side of the torch-and-pitchfork crowd here?
You clearly know — or pretend to know — a lot about the specifics of the story, although you won’t explain how. Why should you be considered credible?
I’m not a BOHS or District staff member. I’m the father of a recent BOHS graduate and of another student entering this fall. If there is a cover-up — which usually comes BEFORE an arrest, as now it’s sort of TOO LATE — I’ll want to pursue it VIGOROUSLY. But I’m not going to try to slam the school district based on nothing — which is what you’ve shown so far.
I presume that this is political because you (anonymously, as is OC blogging custom) said something nasty about the unions and because your arguments are so loony that they don’t seem to bear any other explanation. Look at them:
“Why wouldn’t the other teachers already know?” Probably so that she wouldn’t be tipped off and run!
“Why wouldn’t they arrest her the week BEFORE finals?” Probably because the police apparently agreed that she wasn’t a flight risk and everyone knew that this story would be devastating for students, so it was better if it came out AFTER FINALS.
Only an idiot or someone intent on scoring political points wouldn’t get this. So if this isn’t political on your part, I guess that narrows it down. Your thinking that I’m “blaming the victims” here may well seal the case for idiocy.
BreaWildcat: Let’s just wait and see, Mr. Diamond.
Thank you for referring to me as an idiot twice.
Good luck to your children. Their Father is obviously very active in their lives, posting all day on Fathers Day. Great job Dad!
Is this guy for real?
gregdiamond: “Thank you for referring to me as an idiot twice.”
You’re welcome, and you’re welcome for my stopping after the second time. However, to be fair, what I said is that you were either an idiot or politically motivated — and my money’s still on the latter.
Why don’t you have a nice conversation with vegandawg23? I’d enjoy seeing what else you two anonymous writers agree on.
BreaWildcat: Just because I don’t condone the rape of our kids, doesn’t make me an idiot.
Why not bash OC TEACHER for being anonymous? A little selective are we? Chauvanistic Pig.
Pretty sad revalation from the victim today huh! MORON
OC_Teacher: You’re being bashed because of your rush to judgment, your conspiracy mongering, your rumor-slinging, your name-calling, your baseless assertions, etc.
Some of us prefer a wait-and-see (i.e. DUE PROCESS) approach before labeling people as “rapists”. If Johnson is indeed found guilty of an abuse charge (the notice sent out to teachers mentioned a “statutory rape” arrest, but a $20,000 bail is more in line with felonious emails and “sexting”), then, as Greg said, “we’ll pursue it VIGOROUSLY”. Of the more reasonable-sounding people contributing to this discussion (NOT the “Dude banged his teacher!!!” crowd), NO ONE is blindly defending Johnson. In fact, to insinuate that ANY teacher would defend her IF she’s charged and found guilty is pretty fucking stupid. In fact, we’ll be the first to celebrate whatever punishment is meted out to her (assuming it’s severe enough).
Who or what is your source anyway? Because some of the shit you’re tossing out there is plain wrong. Instead of trading rumors with whomever your colleagues are at the high school, perhaps you should have been more focused on the education of your kids. (Because from experience, and I have two decades of it, it’s always the worst teachers who gossip-monger the most.)
BreaPERVERT [apparently previously BreaWildcat — and I approve of her no longer using the school’s nickname]: Your anonymity provides you little or NO credibility OC Teacher (at least using Mr. Diamonds logic).
My source is a victim (there is more than one). I have read the police reports. This goes way beyond SEXTING. What have I said that is wrong. I would offer defending a teacher who molests a minor child is wrong, but aparently not in your eyes, nor Mr. Diamonds.
NOTE TO TEACHER: Statutory Rape is still RAPE. and again it doesn’t matter who the penetrator was, the aggressor is at fault (at least under California law) .
It would be interesting to see you put YOUR name behind the post as Greg Diamond has suggested I do. Then again, he assumed I was a male and an idiot. I think he is a pedophile protector. I wish he used his real name so I could send CPS to check out his make believe kids. There were NO DIAMONDS graduating.
There is an arrest report floating around. I suppose that’s BULLSHIT too.
I guess the reason BOHS has a new baseball coach is because of it’s record too!
gregdiamond: BreaPervert: You have my real name. I ran for State Senate last year in the area including Brea; you can easily find out what info you’d like about me.
My kids have a different last name. One just graduated from BJS, not BOHS.
So you’re close to one of the victims, meaning that you have a bias. You’ve read the police reports (which contain allegations) and the arrest report. Great — tell us what’s in it! To what did Johnson admit — that allowed her to make bail of only $20K? Was it on the level of sexting? You don’t get that low a level of bail for raping a child.
You know what’s alleged; you don’t know what’s true. You’re perfectly willing to say that those of us who want to let the criminal justice system do it’s job are “defending a teacher who molests a minor child,” rather than waiting to find the facts.
So are you on faculty or staff at BOHS? As a parent, I’m very interested.
2. My take on the conversation
Bad things happen — including to children, including in school. Sometimes bad things get covered up, as well. This is one reason that I think that whistle-blowing is important — and why I sometimes represent people facing retaliation for whistle-blowing.
And … sometimes whistle-blowers are wrong. Sometimes they exaggerate; sometimes they make things up. Most of us who aren’t directly in touch with whistleblowers won’t necessarily know. Those of us who are in touch with them won’t necessarily know for sure.
That’s why it is generally a really bad idea to attack those people without personal knowledge of an event for reserving judgment. This is even more so when the stakes are really high — as with accusations of rape.
The most important facts that strike me about this case are these:
- There was a parent complaint.
- There was an arrest.
- There was a release on bail for a relatively paltry $20,000.
The last of these strikes me as particularly important in reacting to this case. Yes, it may be low in part because she is not a flight risk (if she isn’t), but still — that seems low for such a case. As a commenter towards the bottom says, it suggests that the court believes that there was a good likelihood of some impropriety — but maybe not exactly what we’ve heard through the rumor mill. (One reason that I include so much of the above conversation is to show just how hard the rumor mill has been working.)
If Johnson engaged in any impropriety at all — including, perhaps, just suggestive texts — my guess is that she’ll be gone (and if she isn’t, it would be likely because it fell far short of the allegations. Teachers and unions are not eager to invite the suspicion of parents in this regard.) Her arrest might be as simple a function of her having admitted to something minor. And, absolutely, it could indicate something far worse.
The question that lets us judge the propriety of some of the challenges below — and yes, obviously, as a participant I’m biased about what’s there — is this: is a successful cover-up likely?
Here, I don’t think that it is. It’s too hot of a potato. The Administration would have little interest in covering up the smoke if they know that there’s provable fire. The teachers’ unions need little more than the guarantee of proper due process. Johnson, if guilty, might want one — but her ability to act is limited. The Police and the often-unresponsive District Attorney are in high gear. And it seems to be coming down the pike quickly enough so that little developing a plan and coordination of witnesses is even possible.
By way of comparison, let’s consider the scandals in County government of last year. With Bustamante, Daly, and Mauk, we were talking about people with excellent connections — including, I’m told, with the DA’s office. In the former cases, office sexual harassment usually has nowhere near the ability to grab the public’s attention as sexual involvement with children. (The exceptions, like the Monica Lewinsky scandal, just help to prove the rule.) Witness coordination, itself largely a function of delay, looms as a serious possibility. (Were Tom Daly on the outs with the County’s power structure, the delays in investigation, leaving open the possibility of coordination of witnesses, would still be something you’d see discussed every week in the papers. But — he isn’t.)
I simply don’t see how a successful cover-up is that likely here. It’s possible — sure. But likely? The police have every reason to show how well they can crack a case on such a sensitive topic. The administration knows that they’ll be under tight scrutiny — especially from those who want to score cheap points against public sector unions. Letting justice run its course seems pretty damned reasonable.
The danger, on the other hand, is that Johnson will be railroaded. (And, again, she could be guilty of something big or of something small, as well as of nothing significant.) The torches-and-pitchforks crowd will be out for blood, to prove that we can “protect our children” and to preserve the myths that 17-year-old boys are not massively sexual creatures and that power doesn’t translate into sexual demands and favors all throughout adult life. And their primary weapon will, as usual, be the one that you see above: assume guilt and accuse anyone who wants to allow justice run its course from being on the side of the victimizers, from being soft on crime.
So, you have someone willing to assert, not knowing who the hell I am, that I must be a “pedophile protector” with “make-believe kids.”
You know, I’m duly scared of — if she’s guilty of something significant — the Michelle Johnsons of the world. But I’m also scared of the people who will make charges, often anonymously, without compunction.
That’s not just because of my overarching concern about civil liberties and civil rights, by the way. It’s because so often, the people who make such charges turn out to be guilty of serious crimes themselves — and so often, if they’re powerful, receive ample portions of the protection that they would deny to others.
That’s why I say: if the system looks like it’s working, let it work.
$20K is nothing but a token as bail goes.
I might be inclined to say that they might not have much of a case at all, at least in the judges eyes, at this point.
Lascivious speculation aside, it sounds like there isn’t much fire to this smoke bomb after all.
a young lad got laid by an experienced woman
a middle aged woman got laid by a young man
who cares
Inge’s gonna mess you up, man. I’m keeping clear.
if this accusation is true,
the guy didnt get raped, he obviously wanted it.
they never said anything of a raping, so thats complete bullshit. how would he get raped by her? he couldn’t, being the captain of the wrestling team.
this teacher was the one of the best teachers I ever had. everyone loved her.
but, unfortunately people make mistakes.
California law, in its wisdom, says that persons under the age of 18 do not have the legal right (indeed, I think not even the legal capacity) the consent to any sort of sexual relations, despite the fact that it is may be the second-most commonly broken law after speeding. Under this legal fiction — and assuming for the sake of argument that they did have sex — he could not have consented to sex, but sex to which she consented did occur, therefore it was rape. (It’s called “statutory rape.”)
The philosophy of the proponents of Prop 35 (the “human trafficking” measure) last year was that statutory rape is exactly the same as violent rape. (For support, they quoted out of context Barack Obama’s statement that “rape is rape” — which referred to the question of whether the victim did or did not put up a struggle, making it “violent rape,” as well as refusing consent.) Most Americans surely do not believe that they are the same thing, but we like to pretend that we do when challenged that otherwise we don’t want to “protect children.”
(Note, because I pretty much have to say this: I do not favor people engaging in statutory rape, although I recall having a different view of it when I was 15 to 17. I do think that, given what in an 18-year-old would be taken for consent, “statutory rape” involving a 16- or 17-year-old, even if it may screw someone up, simply is not the same as what most of us think of as “real” rape. )
*Does Statutory Rape require ….broken skin?
Why do you want to know?
They have some statuary with a mysterious blemish… probably the maid’s fault.
*Just a rhetorical statement…….sorry Doctor D. No baby sitters, no house maids, no girls working their way through college. If anything it was a Mary Jo Laterno moment. John Schmidtz rest in peace….they got married……and are living happily ever after.
Interesting story. I was surprised to find out that the supposed victim was the suspect’s daughter’s ex boyfriend and that the allegation was made a day after grades came out. Suspicious. The comments made me laugh–people tend to get so defensive, rude, and childlike when it comes to these type of stories. Mrs. Johnson was an excellent teacher and I was in a state of shock when I heard this news. I feel bad for her son, not being able to walk at graduation because of the scandal even when the supposed victim did. I hope it’s not true, thus I’ll reserve my judgment till after the police fully investigate the case.
This is a great post, it begins by suggesting that this was somehow a jilted lover, grade fixing scandal (was the kid even a pupil of Johnson recently, I read she teaches tenth grade & he was a senior???), the poster goes on to sympathize with the accused Son, while questioning the victim. This smacks of, “well she was dressing like a slut so she deserved to be raped”. But, then after these explosive suggestions, the poster says: “I’ll reserve judgement….”
I was at the CWS and missed most of the drama which I heard shook up the bubble quite a bit (I was drunk in the car, when Barry Bonds broke the HR record. Go Figure) .
I am more interested with the suggestion that there were multiple victims. That would be telling.
Michelle Johnson is an incredibly kind and down-to-earth individual. It sickens me to the core to see her name being dragged through the dirt like this, to see people who have no insight into this amazing person or this school culture suddenly become experts on the subject. There is a number of highly suspicious coincidences surrounding this case.
The biggest issue I have with this fiasco is that gossip like this will soon be responsible for regulations on classroom and school environments that create even more of a disconnect between teacher and student. When I hear things like “she was TOO close to her students,” I stop and have to think, “What does that even mean?” Is it wrong to meet with students after school, to take time out of her own life to lead unpaid tutoring sessions on the weekends, to forego taking a lunch break in order to console a student dealing with severe depression (personal experience, btw)? Is it so wrong for teachers to actually care about their students?
The problem here is that we have become a society of walking on egg shells, where the minute something “different” is seen, we assume there must be foul play of some sort.
I remember overhearing a conversation between Mrs. Johnson and another teacher at BOHS during my senior year (2009). The other teacher was complaining about a student, and said something along the lines of “I really can’t wait until this kid has graduated and is out of my class.” To this, Mrs. Johnson asked, “If you don’t care about your students, why are you in this profession? These kids need us. We can’t give up on them.”
I will always remember that moment, especially as I start my own career in education.
I look forward to the day when the alleged victim comes clean about this ridiculous lie. The worst part is knowing that he will get to go on to have a perfectly normal life. Michelle Johnson, on the other hand, will never be the same. I hope this horrible experience doesn’t take away that spark that made her the best instructor (and one of the best people) I have met throughout the entirety of my academic career.
I certainly hope that you turn out to be right, but I’m not going to pre-judge the case in either direction. You certainly do show why we have to be wary of the “lynch mob” mentality.
Former Wildcat wrote:
“………The biggest issue I have with this fiasco is that gossip like this will soon be responsible for regulations on classroom and school environments….”
REALLY, The biggest problem I have is that a person entrusted with the safety and wellbeing of children has been accused of “inappropriate contact”, which we can assume means sexual contact from the reports.
I could give a rats ass, if they need to clamp down on “over-friendly” teachers if it means protecting minors.
DISCLOSURE: My kids are out of school, never went to BOHS, never got molested. My Brothers kids however, go to this school, are intimate with one of the alleged victims and surprisingly, don’t think much of it: “Nothings gonna happen anyway, she’ll just go away” was my nieces response.
We are way farther down the road than I thought in this society.
Shame Shame on the “prejudgements” ……….Michelle is a family member, and although I do not know “ALL” the details,I really don’t need, or want to know! I find this to be between Michelle, her immediate family, BOHS Administration,and Brea Police..NOT US!!! As said, time will tell…Due Process needs to be followed!
Meanwhile, shall we put the Pitchforks down and not destory anymore people with ugly, speculative words? Friends of the victim, friends of Michelle, teachers, students need to stop “gossiping” especially on a BLOG..and let this all come to a head within due process! A Senior in high school looks at oneself as an Adult..even though in the “eyes of the law” he/she is a minor..Therefore, as to why Mr Diamond pointed out issues and laws regarding Statutory Rape..
BUT how does one prove they “did not” have sex with another person? Other than a Rape kit? Possibly a truthful witness? So all we have here is His (alledge victim) and Her (alledge perp) WORD!!! The truth shall set her free!! Meanwhile, I will pray for my Family members, as this heartache goes far and wide within the family! I will also Pray for the alledge victim and his Family, too. I am sure they are hurting, also!!
Everyone needs to calm down. Nothing has been proven yet in a court of law, no convictions or verdicts. If she is guilty of her charges (at least one of the nine felony counts, I believe), then she is guilty and will get justice. If she is innocent, she is innocent. Everyone can comment and argue their opinions, but none of that will speed up due process or determine the outcome. Let the haters hate and the trolls troll. They want your reaction. Stop giving it to them!
I thought she was arraigned and plead out for a “lesser”?? I assumed that was the plan with the multiple counts to force a plea/quick end. The details of the classroom tryst(s) were classic prosecutorial pressure.
If her contention is that she Never had sexual contact with the child, as FamilyNBrea claims, then this should be interesting. I am told there are several student witnesses and a great byproduct scene with the daughter not making the 2012 Volleyball Team and Ms. Johnson going ballistic on the assistant coach, who was also removed/transferred for sex with a student. He coaches at Tessoro now.
“let the haters hate”…..Yeah well let the people demand that RAPISTS don’t teach at their schools.
Has anyone heard anymore about this case? I know there was a pretrial but have heard nothing else.
Put away the Pitch forks and torches kids. the truth came out and it wasn’t quite like Greg hoped.
That you rushed to judgment and were (apparently) right in that judgment does not mean that you were right to rush to it.
That’s especially so if you, and Brea Wildcat (it’s sort of hard to tell the two of you apart based on writing style), are hurling charges anonymously.
You’ll see the post I put up this afternoon; I hadn’t seen this before I did so.