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Murray at ACC-OC, backed up by Poseidon VP Scott Maloni and enthusiastic OCWD Poseidon supporter (and former Poseidon consultant) Steve Sheldon.
EDITOR: Note that this piece (by Joe Geever and Dave Hamilton of Residents For Responsible Desalination or R4RD) begins with an account of the latest meeting of the Santa Ana Regional Water Quality Control Board (SARWQCB.) If that Board sounds familiar, it may be because the kleptocrats are trying to get Kris Murray on to it, as we reported back in December. But this appointment still needs to be confirmed by a majority of the state senate.
Kris is the last person we need on a powerful board like that, greasing the wheels for Poseidon and Cadiz and God knows what else. So we need at least twenty Democratic Senators to vote against Kris’ appointment – if the above concerns are not enough for them to say no to her, maybe partisanship will work – Kris is the Republican challenging the beloved Democrat Loretta Sanchez as we try to transform the OC Board of Supervisors, and needs to be kept down. Okay??? Well, here’s Joe and Dave:
Poseidon is Missing Some of Its Pieces (Permits)
At the February 8, 2019 meeting of the Santa Ana Regional Water Quality Control Board (SARWQCB, or “Board”, or “Regional Board”), its Staff presented a public information update to the Board on why the Poseidon-Huntington Beach permit application was taking so long to complete. Apparently, the Board has been getting pressure to speed up the process—pressure from people with influence. (Vern’s emphasis.) We’re going to find out exactly who that is.
Staff explained that the new regulations in the Ocean Plan have never been enforced before, and it takes an enormous amount of effort to process a request like Poseidon’s. We agree—and the delays have been Poseidon’s fault. In fact, Poseidon has been the cause of every delay since the City approved its permits in 2005.
We highlighted that Poseidon is not requesting a permit to operate with sub-surface intakes —t he preferred method in the Ocean Plan to eliminate marine life mortality. Poseidon is asking for a permit to continue using the surface intake. That method is being abandoned by AES Power Plant because it doesn’t meet new requirements to protect marine life. This is an argument that we brought up 20 years ago, but Poseidon refused to address.
At the meeting, Poseidon used a slide showing:
- In 2006 they got their permits from the City;
- In 2012 they got their permits from the Regional Board;
- And, today they are asking for an update to the 2012 permit.

Maloni contemplating more spin.
Sounds simple, doesn’t it? In typical Poseidon fashion, that timeline is completely misleading, if not an outright lie.
The Board members would never know what we know–but we’re going to tell them!
It’s true that in 2006 Poseidon had an EIR approved, together with all its required permits from the City. It also was granted a lease from the State Lands Commission and its first permit from the Regional Board in 2006. We immediately appealed the City permit to the California Coastal Commission (CCC). We also challenged the EIR in court because it didn’t include an analysis of what would happen when AES quit pumping seawater for plant cooling. As a result, all of the marine life mortality would be caused by Poseidon’s desalination plant. We thought the public and City Council needed to know that—however, we lost in court.
All Poseidon needed to do was answer our appeal and get another permit from the Coastal Commission. But Poseidon would not. For several years we requested to have our appeal heard by the CCC because Poseidon wasn’t responding. We finally quit asking.
Poseidon never responded—it did nothing for over 4 years. In 2010 the City notified Poseidon, and us, that because of its inactivity, the Coastal Development Permit (CDP) had expired. By then the state regulations on cooling water were almost completed—showing that we were right in 2005 despite losing in court.
In 2011, Poseidon had another EIR approved together with City permits allowing it to operate even after AES would quit providing it the seawater it required. We again appealed to the Coastal Commission. This time we pointed out that the State was drafting regulations on seawater intakes for desalination plants, and once again Poseidon and the City refused to acknowledge what was reasonably foreseeable. They did update the permit from the Regional Board in 2012. That permit was granted on condition it would be amended when the new regulations were adopted. Once again, we repeatedly asked for our appeal to be heard, and Poseidon refused to respond to that appeal.
Finally, in 2013 Poseidon submitted an application to the Coastal Commission and responded to our appeal. After staff processed the application, a hearing was held in November 2013. We prepared both responses to their application, and our appeal—which was now effectively 8 years old due to Poseidon’s inaction.
Many of you will remember that hearing in Newport Beach. [HERE is the Orange Juice account of that hearing – V.] It was clear we would win our appeal and their permit would be denied. So Poseidon withdrew their permit application and requested another postponement of our appeal.
Last year Poseidon applied for the permit from the Regional Board discussed last Friday. Until they submitted that application a year ago, all the delays were the result of Poseidon’s incompetence and refusal to abide by the law. We didn’t cause any delays beyond pointing out flaws in Poseidon’s project to decision-makers. The Regional Board certainly is not causing delays now.
But here’s the kicker: Since Poseidon first came around pitching this seawater desal plant that would operate in conjunction with the AES power plant, much has changed besides the laws on power plants and future desal facilities.
- Orange County is using 15% less water now than we were then.
- OCWD is producing 100 million gallons a day from the Groundwater Replenishment System, with a 30 million gallon additional expansion already approved.
- L.A. County is building a similar wastewater recycling plant in Carson that will send 60 million gallons a day to Orange County.
- South Orange County is proposing a desal plant that will use subsurface intakes and will likely sail through the permit process—and we aren’t aware of any opposition to that proposed plant in Dana Point.
We didn’t ever think there was a need for the Poseidon plant beyond the little bit that South County needed. Whatever need there was is surely more than met with our marginal efforts at conservation and the massive development of alternative sources since 2005.
And here’s the second kicker: Poseidon can’t get an exemption from the rule to use subsurface intakes without showing a need for the full 50 million gallons a day.
R4RD and our coalition partners are going to keep fighting and Poseidon will surely keep deceiving. Nonetheless, we hope to put this whole thing to rest this year, and get on with our efforts to conserve resources more wisely, and manage the groundwater basin more effectively to ensure for greater reliability well into the future. Our statement in 2005 is even stronger today: “We don’t want this monstrosity in our City, and there’s no need for it!”
-Joe Geever, R4RD Adviser
-Dave Hamilton, President
-Residents for Responsible Desalination
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Just SOME of our Previous Coverage of Poseidon:
- HB Council Respectfully Asks Coastal Commission to Shitcan Poseidon. (July 2013)
- Poseidon Runs Headlong into Infiltration Gallery (report on Nov 2013 Coastal Commission hearing)
- Poseidon’s Water Boy: Matt Harper Quietly Pushes Desal Scam Past Ratepayers. (May 2014)
- OCWD’s Sheldon Clams Up on Poseidon Vote, Flory Shakes Things Up! (June 2014)
- Who owns the OCWD, you or Poseidon? YOU DO! Remind them, tonight! (June 2014)
- Unpacking Poseidon’s Latest Propaganda Blitz with Debbie Cook. Pt 1: The CNN Puff Piece. (June 2014)
- Recent Poseidon-Probolsky Push-Poll Threatens Candidates and Misleads Voters. (Nov. 2014)
- Sheldon’s Unethical Culture Challenged by Legal Complaint (Dec. 2014)
- Poseidon & OCWD Bring their Snake-Oil Show to the Pumpers Tomorrow (Dec. 2014)
- Surfin’ Sheldon, Little Lost Dina, Righteous Flory – What You’ve Been Missing at OCWD! (Jan. 2015)
- Poseidon Update: OCWD “just sticks the tip in…” (Jan. 2015)
- Sheldon Says “Suck it Surf City!” The Poseidon Shill is also Behind our High Density Development. (Feb. 2015)
- OCWD’s Forecast for the Future: Cloudy with a Huge Chance of Error. (March 2015)
- Pat Bates Baits Us with Bogus Doomsday Drought Scenario. (March 2015)
- Swan Song for Poseidon? A Blast of Truth from Irvine’s Peer Swan. (March 2015)
- Cage Rattled Hard, OCWD Dons Fig Leaf Before Marrying Poseidon. (April 2015)
- Our Celebrated Groundwater Replenishment System Steals Poseidon’s Lunch Money. (April 2015)
- OCWD profile #1: Phil Anthony, the Quiet Skeptic. (April 2015)
- Showdown at the OCWD Corral Nears, R4RD launches Volley. (May 2015)
- The Poseidon Adventure Sails On! (May 2015)
- Dina Nguyen Stands Up Garden Grove, Skips Fascinating Poseidon Forum. (May 2015)
- Will OCWD be Shipwrecked by Mermaids? (June 2015)
- Cathy Green Falsely Carries Poseidon Water to Coastal Commission (June 2015)
- Watch Poseidon Joke over Proposed Property Tax Increase to fund their “Privately Funded” Desal Project. (July 2015)
- Bao Stands for Garden Grove Against Poseidon, the rest of Council Waffles. (July 2015)
- Phan is the Man – who Stopped this and Needs to Start it Again! (July 2015)
- OC Can Do Desal Better – Use Salt to Lock Up CO2 Emissions. (August 2015)
- San Diego Has Too Much Water – but is Paying $1 Billion for Their Poseidon Plant. (Dec. 2015)
- Poseidon Progress Report: Eight Ways to Screw the Public. (Feb. 2016)
- Why the Coastal Commission Will Approve Poseidon. (April 2016)
- Poseidon in denial over the obstacles ahead, and more… (May 2016)
- Dispatches from the Battle Against Poseidon, Summer 2016 (July 2016)
- Poseidon Plays the Race Card, LULAC Dances to their Tune. (July 2016)
- Fullerton Reaches its Day of Decision on Poseidon (Jan. 2017)
- OCWD Tonight: Replenish the Aquifer with the Winter’s Fabulous Snows! (April 2017)
- John Earl: The Ideological War Behind Poseidon. (August 2017)
- How Stoopid Does Poseidon Think This County is Anyway? (Jan. 2018)
- OCWD Blocks Study of Alternatives to Poseidon, Misleading Coastal Commission. (Feb. 2018)
- Poseidon-Obsessed OCWD will Try to Ram Billion-Dollar Desal Project Down Our Throats. (June 2018)
- Excellent Comments for Poseidon Term-Sheet Meeting: Hamilton, Everts, Moshiri, Hiemstra (June 2018)
- Climate Change could Swamp Billion-Dollar Desal Deal (June 2018)
- Top Three Reasons Poseidon’s New Term Sheet SHOULD Have Been Rejected July 18 (July 2018)
- Important Poseidon Updates – Video of Wednesday’s meeting, and who’s running for OCWD? (July 2018)
- Poseidon’s Voodoo Math; and Klepto Kris Murray named to powerful Water Board (December 2018)
- Let’s put Poseidon out of its misery this year: Latest reports from the Front Line. (February 2019)
- New OCWD Director Kelly Rowe’s ALTERNATIVE to Poseidon. (August 2019)
Thank you for the concise recap. While we can follow these individual action in the news the time lag between them makes it seem like the issue is resolved when it is just been postponed. I fully support your opposition to Poseidon and have never felt that any part of their plan has been beneficial to HB. Which is not to say I am opposed to desalination, just opposed to buying last centuries plans at tomorrow’s prices in order to fatten the wallets of some speculators and their political patrons.
Kudo’s to OCWD on the groundwater replenishment success! Way to go Dana Point on the desal plant proposed there! Time to say goodnight Poseidon.
I have a question. I began researching this last summer and my research led to a company called Stonepeak as the actual owner of Poseidon. Other researchers say it is Brookfield, a Canadian company. Have you discovered the actual ownership? It seems to me Brookfield is active in natural gas. Stonepeak has deep connections to the Trump administration.
*We guess, that since they launched those Stationary Weather Control Satellites last week that the need for an immediate Poseidon Facility will not be required, until The Trumpster gets thrown out of office. Those Stationary WCS’s will be able to give California and New York all the rain they need for the foreseeable future. “Put those lasers on stun!”