Word just in from a credible source that Ware Disposal is planning to leave the Logan barrio in Santa Ana within the next two months. So the obvious question is, why did Santa Ana City Manager Dave Ream have dozens of signs installed in the Logan area banning 3 ton trucks?
I am told that the neighbors in this area wanted the truck ban in order to put a crimp on Ware Disposal – however if it is true that Ware is leaving then this ban only hurts the other businesses in that area – most of which are law-abiding.
I heard about Ware moving several months ago, but this time my source is very credible – and another neighborhood will be stuck with the stinky Ware Disposal. I am not sure yet where they will be moving to.
The much-maligned signs have now been covered up with plastic bags. Word from City Hall is that Ream is blaming Public Works for screwing up. As I stated in my earlier post, Ream really needs to retire, pronto.
And why aren’t the neighbors in Logan going after the Santa Ana City Council? So far neither Mayor Miguel Pulido nor the Council have done anything about Ware’s operations in Logan – which have been conducted without an EIR and a CUP, as I understand it. I am working on getting copies of the Council members campaign finance reports. Follow the money and you will find Ware Disposal…
I have already promised not to accept money from any developers with business in our city. Allow me to add Ware Disposal to the list of folks I won’t be accepting money from. I wonder how much money Councilman Carlos Bustamante has accepted from Ware?
L Sisk,
Agree with your first paragraph.
As regards your 2nd paragraph – I do have a First Amendment right to freedom of speech – not concerned at all.
Mike,
Freedom of Speech doesn’t protect citizens against a charge of slander. I’ve seen a lot of people make claims about Ware that they’ve heard secondhand through people they know. Hardly evidence of anything.
Like I tell my kids, just because someone hears something, it doesn’t make it factual nor necessarily worth repeating.
L Sisk,
I think you are referring to libel rather than slander. Since this blog is considered a distribution through the media.
Libel: An untruthful statement about a person, published in writing or through broadcast media, that injures the person’s reputation or standing in the community.
The keyword here is “untruthful” – what was untruthful in any of my statements about Ware?
Again – not concerned.
Do you work for Ware or some related entity?
Mike,
You are correct – it is libel rather than slander.
I don’t see the Orange County Register making the claims I read about Ware here and elsewhere. Hmmm….why is that?
Unless you have actual evidence of wrongdoing or a conviction to point to instead of rumors, I sure wouldn’t make those sorts of allegations in a public forum as if they are undisputed facts.
But that’s just me. ((shrug))
Nope. I don’t work for Ware or anyone associated with the disposal buisness.
“Unless you have actual evidence of wrongdoing or a conviction to point to instead of rumors, I sure wouldn’t make those sorts of allegations in a public forum as if they are undisputed facts.”
L Sisk,
I have seen the actual violations written up by code enforcement. I have seen video and photos of Ware illegally power washing the trucks.
They are currently operating in an illegal capacity at their facility in Logan.
The Register has written about the illegal trucks being used by Ware. The CHP has repeatedly cited them for these violations.
Google “Ware” and I am sure you’ll read stories about their miscreant behavior.
Sean,
If Ware is getting code violations from law enforcement – how is it that people claim that they are breaking the law without penalty?
And not to point out the obvious here but if Ware is power washing trucks illegally (and thus letting hazmat water into storm drains), why hasn’t it ocurred to anyone to notify the EPA?
My caution to Mike was in reference to this:
“Ware pays off the City Clowncil in order to keep the heat off of themselves.”
Anyone got proof of that beyond perfectly legal campaign donations? Has someone from Ware ever been convicted of this?
“why hasn’t it ocurred to anyone to notify the EPA?”
L Sisk,
Who says the EPA hasn’t been notified? Not to mention other agencies as well.
L Sisk,
To be precise that IS what I was referring to – perfectly legal campaign bribes. I think that is what the majority of politically savvy people would understand.
Sean,
Where can I read details regarding the fines imposed on Ware Disposal by the EPA?
Mike,
There’s a not-so-subtle difference between a perfectly legal campaign contribution and paying bribes to city council members to get favors.
And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to grasp the two ideas.
But if Ware is doing such a bang-up job bribing city council members as you blatently and repeatedly claim, why would they receive mulitiple violations from the city as Sean claims?
Which is it? Either they have the city of SA in their their pocket through bribes or they don’t.
Update:
The City has removed the offending (to industrial business) 3 ton limit signs in Logan. Except for one which had previously existed at Santiago and Stafford.
The City moved amazingly fast on accomplishing this task. Complaints went to the City manager’s office on Friday, the signs were covered on Monday and they were removed on Tuesday.
Wow!! When the City feels the heat they can move pretty fast.
Kudos to Art Pedroza, the OJ Blog team and of course to the industrial businesses in Logan who made the City feel the heat.
With Renaissance Plan Deux just round the bend – I agree with “L Sisk” that Logan needs to be aware and aggressive in their dealings with the City. Residential and industrial in Logan should come together and present a united front to the City for the best outcome for all concerned.
L Sisk,
The point is that the City has been dragging their feet on the Ware Disposal issue for years – largely due to Ware’s influence through campaign contributions.
If the Ware problem disrupted Floral Park you can bet that it would not have taken 5 years to come to a resolution – more like 5 minutes!
Who says the EPA hasn’t been notified?
Huh. Bush’s defanged, defunded EPA that would be. Hope they get around to checking out Ware some time this decade.
I rode my bicycle by the WARE properties yesterday.
A fenced off yard full of trucks, a little smelly, and this is in the HOT afternoon, I would have expected a bigger stink.
I am not sure what a CUP is and why this company would need one in a area that is zoned for Industrial use.
An RSP overlay, very interesting, but how is that going to help? If there is a problem, then it is the R/I-15 zoning and adding to that high density residential would just make it worse.
Cook,
A CUP is a Conditional Use Permit – a type of industrial business permit. And I agree with you – I’m not altogether convinced it’s legally necessary in this case as Ware isn’t operating their business from the Logan location -they’re storing bins.
And I share your concern in regards to Logan and a RP “overlay.”
Mike,
I understand what you mean but exaggerating your point into a felony accusation is the sort of thing that costs a cause credibility.
And yes, if “the Ware problem” was in Floral Park, it would take about 5 seconds to remedy because that neighborhood has financial resources to fight the city. Logan doesn’t have that kind of money. And it will have even less if Ware is moved and the RP decided throws up some lofts on their lot.
I think the big picture is to get rid of ALL the industry in the neighborhood and when that’s done, the city can go in for the kill. The residents can’t afford a prolonged legal battle – the industries operating there presently can. And they have.
And despite what you believe, I don’t think the city of SA will rally around Logan to save the neighborhood. If that were the case, you’d have already seen hue and cry from someplace other than Logan St. and a handful of supporters from elsewhere.
Time will tell.
Vern Nelson,
The EPA had no problem bringing a suit against Home Depot (and others) who violate the law.
If a suit has been filed there should be a record of it. Has anyone done this?
I hope this is true… I live on Stafford and grew up on Logan all my life. They make so much noise not to mention damaging the street with their big O’l dump trucks, which by the way might be operating with out a required diesel devices which is required by law (http://www.acppubs.com/blog/1110000511/post/1650026765.html).. Yes they purchased new trucks recently but they are still using the old ones…I know cause I see them every single day of every week and so on…….
Another link…
http://www.arb.ca.gov/enf/hdvip/hdvip_pamphlet.pdf
I think Waste Management as well as Coca Cola were fined big time for not have the diesel filters earlier this year…
what a bunch of bitches
There is a legacy of theft in this family. Mom used to steal supplies and had for DECADES!!! Despite the existing legacy from prior generations, to maximize damage they likely told her why::To establish this legacy so they can justify pushing him into stealing, ensuring indifference from society’s elite who will be positioned to be involved in this Situation.
They offered him the temptation of maximizing the prices he commands by pushing people into buying at above market value. And I suspect his selling history will attest to this.
Think this will shut the tough guy up? Because I can go on about his schitzophrenia and how it makes him more likely to be a recidivist pediophile.
Thank you, all of you, for stealing my jewelry. I wash my hands of you all.