Sitting here bawling my eyeballs out with joy for the tenants! We tried so hard to help them while also…
Scorched Earth in Washington D. C.
– December 16, 2010Posted in: 2010 elections, congress, democrats, Fresh Juice, Senate
Specifically Ms. Jennifer Wirsching
I found several more of Eric's comments and reposted them. One I don't see is where he identified this criminal…
I think that's pretty much it other than the Neshanian ones I was trying to restore -- notably a cogent…
Sounds like a coup to me.
"The worst is former staff members allege a “toxic atmosphere” in the office from her “very aggressive management style, resulting…
I also suggested that Spitzer should mind his own damn business. But after the Do looktheotherwayism I suppose he has…
Great reporting as always, thank you!
They are rooting out corruption. Duh!
Has the bos given any reason for doing this?
Really? Comparing Democrats passing legislation before the end of the session (which they are entitled and obligated too) to a megalomaniac mass murderer? These people were also elected, and the election of new members set to take office in a month does not mean that business has concluded on the capital. Ignorant, nonsensical comparison.
….I love when Liberals miss the point completely (which is most of the time). I wasn’t comparing Saddam, the person, to Liberals, the people, Luke. Rather, I was pointing out that, in my opinion, their actions (and the reasons for those actions) were analogous.
And, let’s not foget that, as elected officials, they are responsible to move according to the will of the people. Based on November 2nd, they currently are not.
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And, let’s not foget that, as elected officials, they are responsible to move according to the will of the people. Based on November 2nd, they currently are not.
You know, I would totally disagree with that. You’re telling politicians they need to stick their finger in the wind and move with each gradation of polls. You probably cheered Cheney when he lampooned politicians for doing that (as he boldly pushed on with the Iraq occupation against popular opinion.)
More important than trying to gauge the general American public’s opinion each week, is for a politician to be responsive to the people who actually elected him, whether in ’10, ’08, or ’06.
And MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than that, I would say, is for a politician to do what they think is right, even if it might not be popular at the time. Remember, they are better informed than us (and SHOULD try to convince us of what they’re doing.)
Vern, are you actually supporting the Jeffersonian Trustee form of government? If this is a consistent position for you, I am in the very uncomfortable position of agreeing with you. Hope the same philosophy holds true for you when decisions are going the other way.
You got me there, erudite Geoff. I haven’t heard of the Jeffersonian Trustee form of government, but if that’s what I’m describing then I guess it’s what makes sense to me.
DO you want to elaborate on that concept? Would you like to do that as an OJ blogger?
Of course I would join your merry crew of bloggers Vern. Just let me know the details.
Can I start saying “Whatchyoo talkin about Willis?”
The mid-term election, though it could be viewed as a “poll”, I suppose, was a somewhat stronger repudiation of the current direction of Congress than a mere poll. And, no, I actually prefer the quip from Leno when, during the Bush/Kerry battle, Jay commented (after seeing Kerry try his hand at windsurfing), “Look….even his hobbies depend on which way the wind blows!”
And, while I agree, in general, with your second comment, it was clear that those who elected these people into office have changed their minds as to direction. In other words: they want “change” (now…where have I heard that before?)…..
Vern, “do what they think is right”? “They are better informed than us”? Are you serious? Politicians of ANY ideology, once elected, become their own first priority. Their sole focus is to get re-elected….whatever is takes. THAT is why we must keep an eye on them at all times. They cannot and should not be trusted. And…informed? I cannot even respond to that…
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Vern, “do what they think is right”? “They are better informed than us”? Are you serious? Politicians of ANY ideology, once elected, become their own first priority. Their sole focus is to get re-elected….whatever is takes. THAT is why we must keep an eye on them at all times. They cannot and should not be trusted. And…informed? I cannot even respond to that…
All right, you can’t shift the terms of the conversation. You were dictating what you think they SHOULD do – of course you’d like all the elected Democrats to all of a sudden take orders from all the folks who came out and voted Republican last month. I responded with what I think politicians should do – some combination of what they think is right, and what the folks they actually represent want.
And it’s fun to generalize about what rotten bastards they all are, but we could name off folks on both sides of the aisle who do stick with what THEY THINK is right. That’s a good thing, then voters know what they’re voting for when election day comes around.
As far as “better informed” … I thought of putting “theoretically better informed” or “should be better informed” but decided against it. Because while the average congresscritter may or may not be better informed than a brilliant OJ blogger, they certainly are better informed than the average American. No?
That whole “will of the people” argument is trotted out when it’s convenient for people. Did you want Congress to support the will of the people when a majority of Americans supported the public option?
Funny.
1. Trying to renew, in the most standard way, an essential treaty first signed by St. Ronald Reagan and St. Gorbachev, to enable us to continue inspecting Russia’s nukes and help keep them out of the hands of terrorists. (START Treaty)
2. Trying, as promised countless times by our popularly elected President and as favored by huge majorities of Americans AND the military leadership, to put an end to a blatantly discriminatory policy and allow gay people to serve in the military without the morally corrosive necessity of hiding and lying about who they are. (Don’t Ask Don’t Tell repeal)
3. Honoring a long-standing promise to our Latin-American and immigrant population to ease the path toward citizenship for the most hard-working, talented, responsible and valuable of our immigrant youth who have been here illegally through no fault of their own – by passing a bill that was co-written by Republicans Orrin Hatch and Dick Lugar, and costs taxpayers absolutely zilch (DREAM Act)
To some of us, all of this seems like our popularly elected 2006 and 2008 Congress, and popularly elected 2008 President FINALLY getting around to some of the important things we elected them to do. But to OJ blogger Hirota all of this seems like vengeful, apocalyptic, anti-American sabotage.
Oh well, takes all kinds I guess. (Wait, THAT sentiment probably seems fascist to him or something.)
Vern you forgot the spending bill, Something has to be passed to avoid a government shutdown, something we really cannot afford right now.
You are incorrect about the dream act, while it may be unpopular it makes sense to pass it, but it actually saves money and increases revenues in the long run. Why? The requirements are very strict to qualify including education standards and prohibit any one with any criminal record. Many of those who would qualify are currently working at low paying under the table jobs, but are actually educated to do high tech and high paying jobs that are currently being outsourced due to lack of qualified people to do them.
Plus our aging population needs an influx of younger workers to support the Social Security system and to promote future grow for everyone.
This program does not apply to person who came here illegally themselves, but only to those who parents brought them here by no choice of there own.( Like when they were young children)
Thanks bluedog, but what did I say about DREAM Act that was incorrect?
And I was mainly making fun of this Hirota fellow for thinking DREAM Act, DADT Repeal and START Treaty renewal are anything destructive and malicious like what he’s trying to compare them to.
I agree with Hirota that a number of matters are being pressed through congress right now to implement changes that will not go through in January. However, most of these programs can easily be reversed if they are poorly conceived.
The real threat from the past two years is the HUGE increase in the number of Americans reliant on the government for financial support either through public employment or through government benefits. We are teetering right on the edge of having that number reach the 50% level. Once we reach that magic tipping point (which was crossed long ago in almost all of Europe), it will be virtually impossible to stop the slide into socialism and out of pure capitalism. That is the real, true and horrifying possibility created by the last two years.
You said it would not cost money, but failed to mention it actually saves money long term. Saving money and increasing revenue are very important points that are not being made about this proposal.
What you say is true Geoff, but it was the utter failures of the Bush administration that allowed the conditions to exist to create the situation we are now in. Tax cuts not matched by spending reductions, a Medicare reform that cost lot of money but did nothing to help seniors, except giving them a donut hole. A preemptive war in Iraq that cost money and lives, rather than focusing where we should have in Afganistan to begin with. Deregulation without thinking it through, I am all for reducing costs to businesses due to paperwork, but it must be done in a way that continues to protect the system as a whole.
There is a big list and somethings go back to previous administrations both D & R that lead to the current problems.