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From left to right (not politically): Andy Thorburn (D), Sam Jammal (D), Jay Chen (D), Andrew Sarega (R), Steve Cox (NPP), Ted Rusk (D), Phil Janowitz (D), Gil Cisneros (D), and the soon-to-be-gone Julio Castaneda (NPP).
DIAMOND BAR, 7:37 p.m. — As of 7:00 Wednesday night, The League of Women Voters was holding an “all-comers” candidate forum that attracted five of the six leading Democrats — Jay Chen, Gil Cisneros, Sam Jammal, Phil Janowitz, and Andy Thorburn, or in other words everyone except Mai Khan Tran; two left-leaning independents, John Cox and Julio Castaneda; one Republican, Andrew Sarega; and one right-wing populist nominal Democrat named Ted Rusk, who spent most of his answers railing against “illegals.” (Yes, all men.) None of the three leading Republican candidates — Diamond Bar native Bob Huff (who might not have known the way to his hometown Community Center, Young Kim, and Shawn Nelson — attended. [UPDATE: Tran reportedly chose to attend a OC Young Democrats event instead. One hopes that even her audience there would realize that that was the wrong choice.]
Rusk’s first few speeches led to the expulsion of an outraged man — [UPDATE: Castaneda’s cousin Jose Castaneda, a likely candidate for Fullerton City Council this year, it turns out!] — who wouldn’t stop protesting the racism and only a time-out for a heavyset apparently disabled vet who wouldn’t stop hooting and applauding Rusk.
The more substantively dramatic moment so far came in the last of the nine opening statements. The first NPP (independent) into the race, strong Bernie follower Julio Castaneda, announced that he was dropping out of the race and endorsing Jay Chen on the grounds that Chen had the best chance to become a progressive Congress member in that seat. Lots of people on the left have been talking up Castaneda, so his endorsement — which seemed to me out in the cheap seats to have caught Chen by surprise — may be more significant than one would have guessed several months ago. So now we are eight. I like this winnowing!
Updates will follow.
UPDATE 8:20:
The forum so far has been substantive almost to the point of being wonky. Thorburn and Chen, for example, answered a question on Congressional priorities by focusing on its reasserting it’s control over war powers, with speakers also suggesting term limits, allowing for recall of Congress members, and other things that would require constitutional amendments.
Most candidates, excluding Rusk (who has watched a documentary on the “Little Ice Age”!), gave similarly warm answers on fighting climate change. Sarega complains that we’re unjustly creating “green millionaires,” fostering fires by planting too many trees too close to each other, and that environmental agencies are doctoring their reports.
Update 8:30:
Next, a gun control question: what would you do regarding this issue in Congress?
Janowitz: I’d close the gun show loopholes and the online loopholes, outlaw bump stocks, go for all of the proposed reforms that most NRA members already like, such as universal background checks.
Cisneros: I have the Gabby Giffords foundation endorsement, which does lots of work on gun control. He agrees with the above.
Thorburn: Same as above, with a focus on domestic violence — but the big problem with reform is the role of money in politics. Needs reforms.
Jammal, yeah, and biggest problem there is NRA’s dark money donations to “pop-up” PACs.
Chen: we’re the only county where parents must worry about school shootings. He’s a certified sharpshooter and wants weapons of war off of the streets.
Sarega: law-abiding gun owners aren’t problem. We need more people carrying arms.
Cox: we have an insane number of guns and they aren’t going away. You either need to eliminate guns or keep the out of the hands of the mentally ill. We can’t get rid of guns, so we need to focus on mental health care.
Rusk: We’re too wound up. It’s crazy.
8:40 UPDATE: Q on Automation — how do we help displaced workers?
Cisneros: retrain workers
Thorburn: that, plus maybe shorten the workweek to 35 hours.
Jammal: govt is well behind the curve in dealing with this issue. This is why I support Medicare for all, so we will all still have health benefits
Chen: we can’t let tech advances lead to abuse, such as when Uber workers are classified as contractors. Need good schools so that people have the capacity to be effectively retrained.
Sarega: fault lies with Democrats raising minimum wage. Need STEM to train people to service machines.
Cox: yeah, but they’ll make robots to fix robots. Universal basic income, then you can work beyond that for more.
Rusk: automation makes us more productive, which is good, but need to keep out cheap labor. Minorities get hurt worst.
Janowitz: education, tuition-free community college without raising federal taxes. Cut costs of health care.
UPDATE 8:50 —CLOSING STATEMENTS:
Cisneros: I’m all about service: military, philanthropic. I’m endorsed by the Hispanic Caucus.
Janowitz: Who represents us? I’m endorsed by local leaders like Connie Leyva. I’m out there knocking on doors helping Josh Newman.
Rusk: watch Idiocracy. We can’t trust Dems who hate Trump.
Cox: we have such potential. Both parties mess it up. I am change.
Sarega: politicians lie and serve special interests. As a cop, I would help strangers. I care about honor. Need to get rid of RINOs.
Chen: I hope to see more women run in the future. People should know that you can make great change in local office, even though it lacks some of the glamor. I have the best chance to flip district.
Jammal: I’m not angry, I’m hopeful. I know how the system works, how to get $ back to our community, which Royce didn’t do.
Thorburn: our country is the wealthiest and we have the most freedom. He wants to retain those advantages and to appeal to the better angels of nature.
Nice round of applause.
BRIEF INTERVIEWS:
[NOTE: Sadly, I could not find Cisneros and Cox after the forum — I was finding and interviewing targets of opportunity — but I’m sure that they would say that they were happy with their performances, which were among the better ones.]
Incisive question: “How do you think it went? Please talk slowly into the mic.”
Andy Thorburn: Well it was a great for me to speak to a packed house. We had a mature exchange of views and I think if we had this kind of a dialogue more with voters it will help. [Note: my phone did not take well to Thorburn’s accent in dictation, so much of this is a reconstruction from memory and mangled words, the inclusion of which seemed preferable to deleting it. I’ll happily accept his revisions.]
Jay Chen: I think this forum went really well. It was really well run by the League of Women Voters and I feel like the answers that I gave came from the heart. Hopefully the residents here in the constituents saw that — that I’m committed to this district. I understand this district and I’ve got ideas for how to move us forward.
Andrew Sarega: It was a pleasure to attend the forum. Thank you to League of Women Voters putting it on.I thought the night went very well; we had a lot of dignified discussions on policy issues. It was substantive and at the end of the day people were able to get their points across and the voters are going to side who they choose to go forward.
Q: What do you think about the three current or former Republican officeholders among not showing up tonight?
Sarega: It was their personal decision not to be here or perhaps they were away. However, I never shy away from an opportunity to speak my beliefs, regardless of the crowd that’s in front of me. So I was very happy to do so this evening and I hope they can join us the next time.
Phil Janowitz: I thought tonight went very well. We had several questions that were asked for a variety of different topics and we got to explain our positions well. It was a good forum: things got a little bit testy in the beginning, but it got better as things went on. I thought tonight went very well and I’m glad that my platform is out there for many people to hear.
Sam Jammal: I thought it was interesting with the independents and the Republicans up there. I think they also help to remind us that this is a broad district, and with a lot of folks we really have to explain our positions and actually get into the solutions. The format was really good — I thought it allowed for a good back-and-forth. The questions were a little more specific. And I enjoyed the conversation. I felt I did well tonight.
Ted Rusk: I believe it went pretty civil. though the one kid that yelled at me and called me a racist when I was telling him I’ll get green cards the day or the week I get sworn in. I’m gonna get green cards for the undocumented and he yelled at me racist because I said I’m going to throw out the others, you know, I think I used the word “trash.” I did not mention one specific race, but he assumed I meant Mexican. I mean Chinese mafia, Russian mafia … I don’t care who they are — if they’ve committed crimes we need to get them out, that’s plain simple.
Q: HOW would you be able to get people their green cards as soon as you got into Congress?
Rusk: I would get them cause I’ll be one of the few Democrats who who is willing to call Trump and say I want to come in and talk to you. We’ll cut a deal just like the Midwestern Democrats who are starting to break now. They’re saying we need to cut a deal. We got a deal: we secure the border, we get rid of the ones that have committed crimes and we give everybody else green cards and Trump will go for that. He’s a businessman; he’s just given us his first price — you know, seal the border and get everybody out. That’s not what he really believes. He’ll be willing to negotiate and will get those green cards for those undocumented.
(Coming soon tomorrow: my own thoughts on the forum.)
*Any Candidate Forum over five people is ridiculous and totally loses the flavor. Trump loved being up there with 15 other candidates….so he could make his outrageous remarks and dunce the rest because they actually wanted to seriously answer the questions. When he debated Hillary…..she missed her George W moment. She should have turned directly to The Trumpster and answered the question to him….not the audience. Two inches away from his nose….and finishing up with: “It good to see that Emperor Trump knows how long two inches is!”
The forum offered the opportunity for for voters of the region to see and hear what is out there. The League, who we invited to host the event, has a quirky habit of being open to free speech as long as the candidates do not attack each other or members of the public.
It is unfortunate, but necessary, in a Democracy, that we have messages we do not agree with. If the message is straight hate and preaches exclusion of people or groups from the Democratic process, it is wrong and should be stopped. Sometimes it is not so obvious or skirts the margin what it tolerable.
The broad, diverse public that was at the forum was, for the most part polite, respectful and made up their own minds, no doubt, as voting adults. To filter out some candidates from speaking, in spite of the fact that we may not be comfortable and feel downright angry about their comments, is to deny the maturity and sobriety of the informed voter and, in fact, deny freedom.
For this reason, securing the League of Women Voters to moderate voter forums is useful at times to help the voting public decide what they cannot support and what they must support. When it comes to filtering the message of any political party, whether they be Republican, Democrat, Green, etc. there are forums sponsored by those groups to assist with that.
Thanks, Jim. I hope that nothing in the story came across as criticism of you or the other organizers.
I believe that everyone has a role to play. In this case, I think that the protester was right to break the rules and give voice to what others were thinking — so long as he was willing to pay the price. And I think that the organizers were right to remove him from the room — which is exactly what I would have done with him despite my agreement — because that’s THEIR proper role, for the reasons you state.
Yes, we DO have to be willing to listen to differing viewpoints that may make us uncomfortable. But, to some extent, that also includes enduring protesters.
Being one of the thousands of voters who were not there that night, (while very much appreciating the effort required to organize and present such a forum) I’ll risk possibly being thought entitled and arrogant and ask “Any chance the event was video’d for later posting online ?” When there is such hue and cry about “money in politics” perhaps more thought needs to be given for low cost ways to eliminate the need for it ? (especially using resources that have already become ubiquitous ?)
But thanks, Greg, for your reporting ! 100% more than I knew yesterday !
I think that Sam Jammal has videos of all of the forums on his website, for which I think he deserves much thanks.