[Author’s Note: This started off just dealing with the analogy mentioned in the title — and then went way further.]
I found this in a post by Dr. Hercules Real, brilliant mate of equally brilliant Eric Altman, a political consultant whom many of us remember from his time with OCCORD. The title of the story below is mine, not the original author’s.

The “Just Give It Up for Adoption” Scenario Revised for a Post-Roe World
Pro-Lifer: Well the mother should just give the baby up for adoption if she doesn’t want the baby
Me: So who will adopt the baby?
PL: I don’t know there’s lots of couples who want to adopt
Me: Do you know any couple who is waiting to adopt?
PL: Um well not personally but like I know there’s lots of people waiting to adopt.
Me: Do you know what a domestic adoption costs?
PL: I don’t know. $15,000 maybe?
Me: The average cost of domestic adoption in the United States is $70,000 if you go through a private agency.
PL: Oh I didn’t realize it was that much.
Me: Yep it’s really expensive. It can be more if you want a newborn straight from the hospital. Up to $120,000.
PL: Well all life is precious.
Me: it really is. I’ve adopted through foster care and am currently a licensed foster parent. Would you be interested in becoming a foster parent yourself?
PL: Oh no I couldn’t do it.
Me: Why not?
PL: It would just be too much for me right now.
Me: Why is that?
PL: It would be too hard to handle all the issues that came with it. I’ve heard horror stories.
Me: Yep it can be extremely difficult. But what if I told you that you were required by law to become a foster parent? PL: what?
Me: what if you had to become a foster parent by law?
PL: they would never do that. That would never happen.
Me: Well, if a woman is forced to bear a child she doesn’t want, and she goes ahead and has that child, someone has to care for the child either through adoption or foster care. You have to do one of those two things.
PL: But I don’t want any more kids.
Me: So you don’t want someone forcing you to have a child in your home that you don’t want or aren’t able to care for?
PL: no, that’s not my job to raise someone else’s child.There it is, folks. Have the baby, but we don’t want anything to do with it afterwards.
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Nice — but it doesn’t go far enough!
I propose that President Biden, using his powers as Commander-in-Chief, create a new branch of the Armed Services to be known as “Foster Corps” (or, if he prefers, the “Invade Your Space Corps”), which will draft persons over the age of 13, as needed, to become mandatory foster parents. (Drafted teenagers must be supported by their parents.) They will then before responsible for hosting and providing for newborn babies that the mothers do not want until age 18.
As with the military draft, those to be inducted into the Corps will be chosen by lot — sort of like in Shirley Jackson’s “The Lottery,” but not so imminently fatal.
As with the military draft, as many people will be drafted into the military as there are slots that we need to fill.
And hell yes, women (and teenagers of all genders!) will be eligible for this draft.
As with the military draft, certain exemptions will be available, including:
- Of an age that actuarially, means that you are not expected to survive past their present age plus 17.5 years
- but you may still have to pay for care by someone drafted who is insolvent
- Verifiably suffering from an imminently terminal disease — not bone spurs! — but you will still be drafted to babysit
- and you will also have to post a bond in case you don’t die
- Incarcerated, but only for such time as actually behind bars — and no, “Club Fed” doesn’t exempt you
- Suffering from a mental condition so significant that you are not allowed to drive, have a professional license, determine your own affairs — or vote
- You are Christine Blasey Ford
And also possibly, subject to equal protection laws, to whatever extent they still exist: - Believes that the pregnant ciswoman*/transman in question should have had the right to an abortion
- Each federal or state judge who has denied a woman or women the right to abortion immediately gets twins
- Each federal or state justice who has denied a woman or women the right to an abortion immediately gets quadruplets (mix-and-match is acceptable) and has to do all of the bottle-feeding and diaper-changing themselves. ALL OF IT!
*(I’m using the term “woman” to be inclusive of both; if you want to attack me in comments, use your real name)
(This list subject to revision as more good ideas occur to me. And possibly some bad ones too.)
As I’ve written before, opposition to abortion is generally “cheap morality,” in that it demands sacrifices from others rather than from oneself. (And if you’re willing to bear your unexpected child, it’s not really the same sort of sacrifice.) That is not at all typical of religious teachings, aside from some types of Satanism. This proposed military draft — “military” in that it involves protection of the civilian population, but of course those drafted into this Corps would not receive veterans’ benefits unless otherwise qualified, just as pregnant women forced to serve as mothers do not receive them on that account — would fix that injustice. In the immortal words of Justice William Douglas: “Let those blasted hypocritical bastards suffer!” I await the response of President Biden, as well as the Medal of Honor of his choice.
But Before I Leave, Let’s Get Real (or at Least Less Surreal)
This analogy only addresses one aspect of women’s right of self-determination — the less controversial one, in fact, which involves the financial and other personal implications of having to raise a child. But honestly, that’s not all reproductive self-determination is about. It’s also about not having to go through the trauma of not having to give away an unwanted baby of one’s own and face a debilitating lifetime of loss, regret, shame, and apprehension.
Yes, “shame.” I’ve known plenty of women who’ve gotten abortions and a considerably smaller number who have given them up for adoption. It’s rare — not only in my experience, but in the results of studies on the topic — that someone who had an abortion remains anguished about it. In most cases, after all, we’re talking about a first trimester embryo or fetus, after all — which halfway through that trimester is the size of a pea at the end of which is about the size of a peapod — which lacks the brain development necessary to feel pain, let alone anything approaching sentience, despite the repulsive attempts by the anti-abortion movement (“Silent Scream,” anyone?) to use camera tricks to convince women otherwise. So there’s nothing to be missed about that fetus other than a lost opportunity, and frankly there was usually no shortage of other opportunities beside the one(s) that led to abortion.
Neither I nor my first wife regret her abortion; we were not yet financially able to have a child. (Nor was she scarred by it; when I asked her how she wanted to recover the night after she had the abortion; om fact, she made me go out dancing — meaning that I was the one scarred for life.) For her, it was the choice between that child (had she gone to term) and what has been a successful and meaningful academic career; for me, it led to my second marriage and a life as a paterfamilias of a delightful set of step-descendants. When I cleared with her my writing about this, she reminded me of a speech given by now-Professor Barbara Ransby, when we were all doing graduate work at the University of Michigan, saying that she was proud of having had an abortion when it was not the right time to have had a child and proud to have had a child when the time was right. (Her daughter Asha is now co-founding chair of a significant non-profit.) That’s what “choice” means; that’s what it’s called “Planned” Parenthood.
What “forced birth” means is taking away the choice of a pregnant women to avoid the wrenching choice of whether to give away an unwanted newborn, with which biological and psychological forces impel her to bond — a choice that is frankly more stark and impactful than any choice most of us men will ever have to make. Some women will give in and allow their lives — and often those of their other existing children — to be disrupted both financial and in terms of the resources that, especially, a single mother has in short supply, such as time and attention to those children, let alone to a career. This is intentional: religious conservatives can’t pass a law to keep women out of graduate programs and the subsequent top-level jobs they will compete for — but they can make their lives hell for trying. They can’t pass a law saying that women may have to put up with sexual harassment and even assault because they can’t risk the chance of losing their ability to provide for their children. They can’t pass a law to ensure that the supply chains of children to become unwilling troops (often due to the “poverty draft”) or sex workers (often but not always due to coercion), remain full — but they can do their part to instill the financial desperation that leads to both.
Others won’t keep the baby — and if you haven’t heard the stories of longing over having given up a child, over not knowing whether that child is doing well, and over not knowing whether that child might show up someday unexpectedly and perhaps damaged or deeply hurt or angry — well, you need to get a better sense of this issue. If you want to oppress women because you think it’s what God demands of you, at least own it — and recognize that that will be found to be an unconstitutional establishment of religion over time. Recognize also that it debases your religion until then, because this is not a decision that should be made by a smaller entity such as the state, the city, the neighborhood, or even the family, but by the smallest division of the population we can make: by the woman herself.
I spent about half my career teaching a private, mostly Christian, colleges. More than half a dozen came to me — as a relative outsider, who promised and delivered confidentiality — for advice, sympathy, and assistance when they found out that they were pregnant. Here’s the series of questions I asked when, at their request, I advised them on whether I thought that abortion was a goof choice for them:
- Do you believe that abortion is taking a human life, a opposed to ending a potential human life? If you don’t , then your moral beliefs don’t tell you that you’re committing murder. I would then help as requested with arranging logistics and offering psychological and emotional support.
- If you believe that you are taking a human life, do you believe that you have a moral justification for it? The obvious moral justification for abortion would be “self-defense.” If this sounds odd to you, you may want to bear in mind that former President Ronald Reagan believed that abortion should be available in cases of self-defense — if a woman’s life was in danger from a pregnancy, if she was likely to suffer seriously bodily harm from it, or (less clearly, but I’d still buy it) if it was so psychologically painful to her that she had concerns about her ability to live in such a situation. If she could provide a moral justification — not because I felt the need to hear it, but because I felt that she needed to hear it from and for herself — then here too I would help. I never wanted to help anyone who commit what she thought was premeditated and unjustified murder. And I would tell her that if she was so wracked by this that she was considering serious self-harm (as was usually the case — then I said that that was sufficient for me to help her, because I was convinced that she was acting out of self-defense, and that I was helping to safe her life — and that I hoped that she would never come to hate me for helping her. (No one I talked to has even contacted me stating that they do.)
- And if you believe that you would be committing murder with no moral justification (as outlined above), which I think happened only once, then I told them that it didn’t sound to me that they would be happy with themselves if they had an abortion. I gave her contact information for Planned Parenthood (even if only for its gynecological services) and helped her find an outlet for adoption. I don’t actually know how that one turned out in the long term.
The underlying point here is that, because giving up a baby is so traumatic, we’ll likely have many fewer babies put up for adoption in the post-Roe era than this clever analogy suggests. Many fewer people will have to be drafted in the Foster Corps then we likely expect. And that is not necessary a good thing, if it leaves behind broken lives for both unwilling mothers and their fully sentient children. Removing abortion protections intentionally creates unnecessary risks of sex in order to use restricted access to sex as a means of social control. Worse, it’s being done by hypocrites who freely participate in non-procreative sex themselves, often outside of marriage — and if we’re going to allow “private rights of action” in this area, any woman should be able to sue a man who has taken a stand against abortion but nevertheless has sex with a woman without using birth control, verifying with certainly that the woman is using effective birth control, and perhaps putting up a bond for child care in case she gets pregnant anyway.
Oh, and one more thing: if any man is opposed to women’s abortion rights on the grounds that abortion is murder, and tries to convince a woman whom he may have gotten pregnant to have an abortion, he should be prosecuted for attempted murder if she had an abortion, or solicitation to commit murder, if not, regardless of her own views. If they want people not to have recreational sex, they can start (and I hope end) with themselves. Good luck with that!
*We thought we had fought this battle in the 60’s. We thought that Freedom for women was irrefutable. We thought that there was no going back to the days of back alley procedures, dead babies left in dumpsters, breach birth deaths and ectopic pregnancies that kill. Brutal incest, Brutal Domestic Rapes and Family violence due to pregnancies that could not be avoided. Up to 26 states with average IQ’s of less than 80 will soon be killing and directing women to become “barefoot and pregnant” without recourse.
In lighter news; The new Elvis Movie is fantastic. As a wanna be “naysayer” from watching the Trailers…..the Elvis movie ended with our tears and applause! Many
folks are going back to see it again. Austin Butler does a superb job and Tom Hanks
is amazing. A true learning experience about history and inside Elvis.
I’ve been slacking off on blogging the last couple of weeks, but I’ll make up for it this weekend. And you may be glad, or not, to know that Dan C has not let up on his Anaheim asshattery.
First, a few days ago, Dan danced a happy fat man jig over his “discovery” that Tom Tait supposedly lives in Laguna Beach, which supposedly makes fools of folks like me, Greg and Jose Moreno who think he’d be a good interim Mayor for Anaheim. This is almost not worth responding to, as Tom wouldn’t get more than Jose’s vote anyhow.
But Dan’s proof? A press release from something called “Laguna Beach Stu News,” which proudly mentions Tom as an award-winning “Laguna Beach resident.” Even though Dan admits that Tom still owns his Anaheim home and is registered to vote there. My anonymous troll rushed over here and blurted out, “According to The Liberal OC, you have your head up your ass. Tait lives in Laguna Beach, genius. Maybe Ryan from Georgia can volunteer!”
“According to the Liberal OC” – that’s a good one. As the mysterious Richard Aronson commented to Dan, “Tait owns more than one property. Your source is a press release? Good thing you don’t pretend to be a journalist.”
Then yesterday Dan’s big scoop was “Lucille Kring won’t run for Anaheim Mayor.” Well, who ever thought they would wheel HER out again? Goes to show Dan’s head is still stuck in 2014. He actually went and asked her, and he was kind enough to use a circa-1980 photo of Lucille. Of course this is all in service to his fantasy that Republicans will “hold their noses and vote” for Galloway.
No, there WILL be a klepto-Republican candidate, and Lorri will be back to her rightful place as a perennial, but shrinking, Democrat spoiler.
On the subject of Dan’s goofy notion that LUCILLE KRING would be the Republican candidate for Mayor, did anyone here catch the references to her in the second, 99-page FBI affidavit, the one featuring Melahat, Todd, and Jeff? She was referred to as “former Anaheim councilmember” and apparently Melahat helped her pay off her campaign debt in return for some favorable cannabis votes.
(yeah, I owe you all an article on the Melahat part of that affidavit, but the fire hose won’t stop!)
So did you actually ask Tait where he lives?
Supposedly……..
No I haven’t bothered the last ten times I talked to Tom. It’s such an old stupid story that rears its head every time his name comes up. Like nobody’s ever heard of a summer home.
I have. He lives inside of Chumley’s head.
No, seriously: in Anaheim Hills. The commute to work from Laguna Beach would be sort of rough.
I’d just like to note again that, by pushing for Lorri to run, Chumley is actively doing the work of the Republican Party and — let us be frank, despite Avelino — the Cabal. This is on top of his constantly beating the drum for Melahat. (I hope that they downloaded his stories too — at least the ones that remain!) Anyone who wants to send the FBI a letter about this can do so.
He lives in Anaheim. Everybody knows that.
No. He owns property in Anaheim. He lives in Laguna. Go knock on his door in Anaheim Dave. Stay until he answers
You know what? It’s probably true that a person who owns more than one property spends more time at their SUMMER HOME when it’s (HELLO???) SUMMER.
This conversation is over.
*Doris Meissner on C-Span this morning. Didn’t she work for Argyous?
https://twitter.com/i/status/1546633395643432961
Credit for this comparison of Hubble to Webb goes to Jason Short.
*Who Killed Ivanna Trump? Spoiler Alert: It was not Richard Widmark that pushed her down the stairs.
*OK, two more personal objections: (1) Hallie Jackson and her waving arms and bull shit comments. (2) Brianna the Rusky on PBS (Amanpour and Company) and her smiley face stupid comments and ridiculous guests.
*This is from Andrew Do’s Newsletter regarding the Vet Cemetery in Anaheim Hills:
Can’s believe Wagner went right after part of the Cemetery to partition it for his pals: How about a likely spot for Dog Walkers too?
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OC Veterans Cemetery
On June 28, the OC Board of Supervisors unanimously approved the OC Cemetery District Business Plan for Phases 1A and 1B of the OC Veterans Cemetery at Gypsum Canyon in Anaheim Hills.
It’s exciting to see this significant step move forward.
Phase 1A will focus on the infrastructure needed to access the site and Phase 1B will focus on the acres of manicured lawns for inground casket and cremation spaces as well as roads for access throughout the property.
Simultaneously in the evening, AB 1595, which will authorize the siting of a Veterans Cemetery in Orange County, passed out of the Senate Military & Veterans Affairs Committee.
In 2014, the County received approximately 2,500 acres of open space land as a donation from the Irvine Company, which included the property located adjacent to Gypsum Canyon Road in Anaheim Hills.
On December 4, 2018, then-Supervisor Todd Spitzer and I proposed transferring the property to the OC Cemetery District to be used as a joint civilian/veteran’s cemetery. Our proposal won unanimous Board support.
On March 26, 2019, the Board unanimously adopted my proposed resolution to set aside 10% of all burial space in the public cemetery for those who served in the military or government of U.S. allied forces in the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
And just in March of this year, the Board unanimously approved Supervisor Wagner’s proposal to set aside acreage for a section dedicated to the interment of sworn police officers and firefighters (First Responders) who have served the residents of Orange County for at least 10 years and for 50% of their careers.
It is both a privilege and an honor to be in a position where I can properly give back to those who have served us all so valiantly with a final resting place. Their sacrifices and selfless acts have given us the ability to enjoy peace and freedom. It is fitting, therefore, to develop, construct, and equip a state-owned and state-operated Southern California Veterans Cemetery in Orange County as soon as reasonably possible.
Another huzzah for Larry Agran’s putting the cemetery into the hands of the Supervisors.
If the public safety articles he’s mentioning aren’t veterans, would this still be a “veterans cemetery” under such rules? I’ll need to take a look at the legislation. Or better yet, Gig Zenger could so so.
For W O T-
Another installment in the continuing series of “Why Californians Can Never Have Nice Things ”
https://youtu.be/EV0bt7iG9Zs
Philde, how deeply wedded are you to submitting clips from the far-right Epoch Times here?
That thing is thirty minutes — and my eyes and ears started bleeding within thirty seconds.
Can you state the propositions you agree with from the video — like “Gavin Newsom is using public health policy to control the public for his own gratification,” or something — and then we can discuss it?
I am horrified to learn that I was inadvertently causing you multiple hemorrhages in attempting to relay what to me was important information about significant events in easily digestible form. I sincerely apologize, and should have known that injury would be inevitable in attempting to force large complex things through tiny openings. Please forgive me.
Oh, what’s this ? Looks like the divorce papers just arrived. Goodbye.
Thanks for recounting for us your hallucinations — it’s interesting for those of us who don’t have them to learn what they’re like. But why do you trust the reporting in the Epoch Times videos at all?
Let’s visit Wikipedia — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times — to see what they have to say about it. (Footnotes omitted, but they’re there!)
And, these guys have been booted off of major social media — including media that has nothing to lose from opposing the Chinese government because they’re already banned by it:
I appreciate that Falun Gong has good reason to want to oppose the Chinese Government and I recognize that they have good reason to want to drag in others to fight on their behalf. But they’re screwing around not only with the truth, but with our political system, and favoring neo-fascist political movements in Europe. So why would I want its publication here — to be treated uncritically, of all things?
Congratulations on the divorce — not so much to you as to the other party, especially if it’s us — and please don’t worry about my having multiple hemorrhages: they’re just part of your hallucinations.
Thank you for prompting me not only to do this research (again) this time, but to publish it.