Why do so few Democrats besides Ro Khanna and Dean Phillips have the courage to demand what needs to be done right now, for Senator Dianne Feinstein (I’m not gonna use her cute nickname any more because there’s nothing cute about what she’s doing) to resign NOW and ride off into the California sunset with a shred of her dignity intact? [As this writer has been calling for for at least 12 years?]
She’s obviously got a powerful Cult of Personality going on in the most Conservative wing of the Democratic Party, but I think the main thing is that Democrat politicians don’t wanna be called *sexist* [ouch!] This comes down all the way from Nancy Pelosi, who snipped “I’ve never seen them go after a MAN who was sick in the Senate.” This is pure woke PC victimy bullshit. First off, the vast majority of us who want Feinstein to resign want her replaced with either Barbara Lee or Katie Porter, who are both women last time I checked.
And you can be sure that, if it were a MAN who:
- at the age of 89 was showing countless signs of mental and physical deterioration;
- had been jeopardizing the appointment of decent, essential Biden judges for a month and a half with their absence;
- made such a poor, passive showing in the hearings for Amy Coney Barrett, climaxed with praising and hugging anti-democracy weasel Lindsey Graham;
- told the press in 2016 that they thought Donald Trump could evolve into a good President;
- in 2021 not only refused to carve out the filibuster to pass voting rights, but justified this to Forbes saying, “If democracy were in jeopardy, I would want to protect it, but I don’t see it being in jeopardy right now.” In 2021!
- voted for the PATRIOT Act, the Invasion of Iraq, and most liberty-abridging “War on Terror” measures, all while married to a spouse who makes millions off war;
- consistently opposed civil liberties and privacy throughout a 31-year senate career, backing the War on Drugs and “tough-on-crime” measures while showing unwavering allegiance to the Likudnik expansionists in Israel;
- worked tirelessly for decades on the behalf of her phalanx of huge corporate backers such as California’s Big Agribusiness, G&E, Edison International, Diamond Foods, Pfizer, Sony, Disney, General Electric, General Dynamic, Bechtel, Rupert Murdoch’s NewsCorp, Qualcomm, Wells Fargo and more…
…if a MALE Senator had done even half of all that while representing California, you better believe there would be not only the same voices calling for his resignation, but MANY MANY more, because people wouldn’t be afraid of getting called misogynist meanies. (And no, the temporary situation of Senator Fetterman is in MOST ways not comparable.) Is “hiding behind your own skirts” a thing?
Feinstein is not up to this perilous moment in US History. Not only did she say, as mentioned above, that “I don’t see Democracy as being in jeopardy right now” – in 2021, after the Insurrection and a flashing US map of anti-democracy measures everywhere Republicans have power – the following year she REALLY worried journalist Amy Traister with her inappropriate nonchalance about the state of our nation, as Amy wrote in her piece “Dianne Feinstein the Institutionalist” :
“Nothing she said suggested a deterioration beyond what would be normal for a person her age, but neither did it demonstrate any urgent engagement with the various crises facing the nation. … Every question I asked — about the radicalization of the GOP, the end of Roe, the failures of Congress — was met with a similar sunny imperviousness, evincing an undiminished belief in institutional power that may in fact explain a lot about where Feinstein and other Democratic leaders have gone wrong.”
This is What the Nation Needs.
This might-all be sad for Feinstein and her inexplicable defenders, but we need her to GO NOW so that Governor Newsom can replace her as promised with “a woman of color” whom we all hopefully assume will be the great Barbara Lee, who not only will be a fine Senator for another 7 or 13 years, but has earned it with decades of good hard work in the House. Barbara knows what danger our democracy is in!
So do Adam Schiff and Katie Porter, but I imagine they wouldn’t waste their time running against an incumbent Barbara next year. So we have an expensive distracting D-on-D bloodbath out of our way, and very importantly KATIE has a face-saving reason to stay in her house seat for another few terms, WHERE THE NATION NEEDS HER.
And all this of course will be a disappointment and complication to State Senators Dave Min and Josh Newman, who will have to fight over the same State Senate seat next year, as was foretold last year after redistricting. Oh well, DOMINOES VOBISCUM.
But first we need the distinguished, pathbreaking, beloved (by some) Senator Dianne Feinstein to:
Don’t go away sad
Don’t go away mad
Don’t go be bad
Like you’ve been had…
But then, maybe I’m full of shit.
What do you think?
This is your Weekend Open Thread.
Have at it!
Nah .. keep her on – cadavers need representation too …
CLM?
I don’t know enough about this topic to comment. I do know Doug Chaffee is having a bad day. Some shit hit the fan with OC Housing Authority and now another good guy resigned. John Koos. Of course racist misogynist James Mai is still on there.
John was just literally appointed two months ago by Chaffee and today he quit. He said he was tired of the bullshit going down with Mai. The County got hit with some papers and someone filed something so John decided to bail.
That’s all I know.
Koos!? And I had just met him. Will have to give him a call. A good guy, and old friend of former Anaheim Councilman James Vanderbilt.
Vern, the part about the County getting hit with papers isn’t public record yet. But that’s why Mr Koos hit the road.The papers were about James Mai.
Yes, I’ve known him for years, and he is a good guy.
WAHHHH!!! It’s said that we are horrible un-American enemies of free speech, because we don’t approve comments that make jokes about Donna’s dead son, accuse Harley of faking his injury, or promise to mail dildos to politicians’ teenaged daughters with our names on them. What’s wrong with us, not approving such comments?
I apologize to Eric, whose sometimes irritating and repetitious comments are nesting in proximity to such filth. I REGRET THAT I HAVE BUT ONE TRASH FOLDER for all these things.
One day Vern you may find yourself in a trash folder. It may not be yours though.
Do we need to review the concept of private ownership here?
And Vern and I are both in trash folders from Chumley and Jerbal. Yet we survive.
Doesn’t she also hold Israeli citizenship? How or why that’s even legal for an elected representative still baffles me. Nobody can serve two masters (per Jesus Christ). Of course the AIPAC folks deem it as one master, and it ain’t the United States.
Lots of people hold dual citizenship, though generally not with countries with which we have hostile relations. You have to give up your American citizenship when you are naturalized, but then you can return to your country of prior citizenship and reclaim it, though I think that there’s a proscription in serving in their armed forces. (Though Israel might be an exception to that.)
How many elected official hold dual citizenship? And don’t you think it’s a problem for an elected official to have dual citizenship?
Dual citizenship allows one to travel back and forth between countries, as well as an agreement to be taxed by them. That’s the brunt of it. It doesn’t generally imply a willingness or requirement to take up arms against the country of residence — despite what happened to the Japanese (and some Germans) during WW2.
Would you seriously describe yourself as not having “loyalty” to Armenia? You give the impression that you do, and I don’t think that that renders you suspect of treason.
In the case of Israel and Zionism it’s a big problem. It’s caused our foreign policy nothing but trouble.
Right now a large swath of American Jews (not including ultra-Orthodox) are seriously pissed off at Israeli policy. The most consistent pro-Israel constituency is now Christian evangelicals hoping to hasten Armegeddon.
It follows that ethnic ties may be less important than ideological ties.
The swath isn’t big enough. The other swath has more influence in American Middle East policy. Unfortunately.
Historically, that’s true. Currently, it has changed and is still changing. Now the swath that has influence in that area is evangelical Christians — who are very convenient for Netanyahu.
I don’t see any mention of DiFi having dual citizenship. She may be eligible for it — or may not be under the currently ascendant religious factions there — but I don’t think she has activated it. It would normally happen only if one emigrates.
Jews have been accused of “dual loyalty” by anti-semites from long before the establishment of the State of Israel, though, based on the idea of “cosmopolitanism” — a self-perception of one’s being “a citizen of the world” or adhering to transnational principles. I’m proud to be cosmopolitan, but I think that it enhances rather than detracts from my loyalty county.
Anyway, if you know where you got this factoid, I’d be interested.
Had you referenced that Senators (one currently VP) Feinstein, Pelosi and Harris were all married to pro American Israel lobby types instead of claiming (sarcastically) DiFi had dual citizenship, I think you may have proven some point rather than “appearing” to be humorously anti-semitic.
I respectfully give you the benefit of the doubt with this question: how many Jewish entertainment lawyers (and, celebrities) from the east coast are in Hollywood? I think Kamala’s husband and I are college alumni. Go Matadors!!
*Dianne is too old? Whoa! We have a track record of Orange County elected’s that were both criminal and idiots at 50 years old or less! You don’t have to vote for Dianne again
or in the future…that is your choice! The problem is that 60 is the new 40. Guys going through Middle Age Crazy years, dumping their first wives and marrying younger babes
is reaching well into the Elder Years! Tommy Mannvil was married 15 times, breaking a record….marrying his last wife when she was 18 years of age. Heck, maybe Dianne will dump her husband and marrying some 18 year old guy? Would you think she is too old to serve then?
In other news The Trumpster called for immediate Summary Execution of all Mass Shooters at the NRA Leadership Forum. Nice message! Anyone that would vote
for this nutcase missed their chance back in the day when General Craigton Abrahms
called for Summary Execution of Airline Highjackers back in 1960’s!
In other other news: All the chat about Social Security going bankrupt is not only
ridiculous, but equivalent to Yelling Fire in Crowded Theater. Three things to not
only Save Social Security by improved it and add 30% for all recipients: (1) Raise
the Retirement Age to 70. (2) Raise the limit on SSN Deductions to $250,000. (3)
Means Test anyone making over a Million Dollars a year in Retirement and deny or
relegate their payments to a Charity of their choice!
*Oh, we forgot to mention Tommy Mannville was 98 when he married the 18 year old. Johns-Manville was a famous company that make Asbestos Insulation for most homes and buildings in the United States and around the world. Tommy inherited his forture He was actually married only 13 times, some for just a few weeks.
I cannot confirm DiFi has dual citizenship.
https://www.senate.gov/senators/Foreign_born.htm
But, I can confirm being foreign born disqualifies you for the Presidency.
So what is the difference. Why can’t the president be foreign born and other electeds can?
https://www.senate.gov/senators/Foreign_born.htm
https://govtrackinsider.com/dual-loyalty-disclosure-act-would-require-political-candidates-to-publicly-reveal-if-they-hold-dual-57c64c0021b4
What is the difference? Put on your lawyer suit and see if you can take a stab at that.
Lots of Filipinos have dual citizenship. You need to give up your Fil citizenship when you take American citizenship, then when you go back there you can have it reinstated. No one cares: the laws against sedition cover any problems here.
And, I’ll note that Filipinos are highly overrepresented in the Navy — and I suspect the Air Force as well to a lesser degree. And yet it all works out fine.
My great uncle Carlos, a Mexican American, spoke English with a Filipino accent… because he learned the language from all the Filipinos he served with in the Navy!
Huh?? Motion to strike as non-responsive.
If it shouldn’t make a difference then the presidency should be an open seat for folks like Ahnold but it’s not.
Motion denied. Hearing set for sanctions.
It makes a difference because, for better or worse, the former qualification is in the Constitution — whether for good reasons or bad. (I’ve heard it claimed that the Framers wanted to keep Alexander Hamilton out of the Presidency, but have also heard that disputed, although I don’t recall the alternative explanation.
In contrast, no constitutional provision or other federal law prevents dual citizenship. So if we think that the Framers’ choice was a bad one, or simply based upon inapplicable factors, then we have no reason to honor it in a separate consequence.
One problem with your position is that it would presumably affect anyone who had another country’s citizenship awaiting them, as that could color their judgment. This would, among other things, bar any Jews from holding elective office. I realize that you might consider that to be a benefit, but it’s not — it would just be another milestone in historical anti-Semitism/Judiacism.
By the way: would your theory also apply to Armenians who view everything in the world through a deeply tinted Armenian, rather than American, lens?
Certainly there are Armenian Christian nationals right here in Orange County. No dispute.
But me I’m an amurriccan. Have a cousin (immigrant no less) from the 101st. Served time in Grenada and Panama.
I’ll point to Washington and his speech which is the foundation for FARA which has had a resurgence though somewhat sputtering. No conviction of Wynn or Barrack (Flour connection).
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CDOC-106sdoc21/pdf/GPO-CDOC-106sdoc21.pdf
Grenada LOL. That was my army brother’s first adventure, Ronald Reagan’s little temper tantrum after losing all those Marines in Lebanon. The Two Days’ War.
You may not know this, but when you say (to paraphrase) “some people are X, but I’m an American” (even if you spell it funny), you’re implying that they are NOT Americans. So spell it out so that it can be used against you, slugger: what people (please be exhaustive) do you not consider to be “American”? Maybe you really ARE a Putinista!
To the extent that Washington’s admonishment against binding foreign involvements had a lasting impact during the subsequent two generations, it barely survived Jefferson and didn’t survive Monroe.
Oh, and just for the record, you failed to address my previous comment substantively.
Feinstein does a good Ginsburg impression.
Huh? Ruth Bader? Ben Ginsberg? Or Allen? If she could do a dramatic reading of Howl, some of her transgressions would be forgiven.
“I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn looking for an angry fix…”
He meant staying well past her “use by” date out of personal vanity. And I agree. Ginsburg wanted to be the one to swear in Hillary; DiFi may not remember why she’s so intent on staying in power, but she seems utterly convinced by that reason, whatever it might be.
Oh! Eric finds a truffle!
Katie Porter is not a nice person. Her ex-husband had to get a restraining order against her.
“The divorce records, reports of making staffers cry, and other petty and violent behavior—not to mention the new ones she ripped Irvine Mayor Farrah Khan and the Irvine Police Force when the cops arrested her current domestic partner for punching out a pro-Trump protester at one of her town halls—all paint an unflattering image. This is particularly true since Porter wants to ascend to the United States Senate. My colleague Nick Arama reported on former fellow and wounded warrior Sasha Georgiades, whom Porter accused of giving her COVID, then had Georgiades removed from the office and from her presence.
“According to text messages released on Thursday, Porter accused Georgiades of giving her COVID, and effectively banned her from working in the office, What made it even worse? Georgiades was a Wounded Warrior Fellow operating as a veteran liaison for Porter’s office and worked for Porter for two years…
“Porter is your typical totalitarian—her way or the highway. Plus, it appears she is violent and abusive—the perfect California Democrat.”
I don’t know who wrote the above, it wasn’t me. Good enough Vern? BTW – Lou Correa for US Senate!!
True that, she’s not very nice. This must be from that new Gateway Pundit piece that Dan was whining about. We’d noted before that she’s not very nice. https://www.orangejuiceblog.com/2023/01/katie-porter-should-stop-texting-and-other-senate-24-chismes/
Not very nice – that’s a flaw. She should work on that. It’ll make people not want to work with her. If I vote for her or endorse her it’s because of what she does in Congress, not whether she’s nice.
Oh, and Farrah deserved her “new one.”
Totally agree, Vern. Way back when Farrah was my friend, I took strong offense to Katie screaming at her for reneging on her endorsement. I no longer feel a “she yelled at my friend” sort of reaction, but I do still have a “that kind of approach will not serve her well” reaction.
She might argue that imposition of a tougher standard on her than is imposed on many screaming-inclined men — Andrew Cuomo, Eric Bauman — is sexist and unfair. Fair enough. I think that screaming is defensible from those below, but not from those above — and she is above.
That might be it – I don’t think she ever started to know that she is “above” – she still talks and acts like an underdog.
And when have you ever given a crap about not nice people. Have you stopped voting Republican, btw?
It’s funny watching OC Democrats from UCi law school of non-Muslim faith pander to the Muslim vote. We’ve come along way from 9/11. I’m not saying that’s bad, I’m just saying.
*Mikey,
Remember when Patton told the General Staff, “I’ll stop using Nazi’s when
you can find someone else that can make the trains run on time!”
Everyone in Congress has “feet of clay”….otherwise they wouldn’t be there.
Katie is extremely bright, hardworking and has her heart in the right place on
a wide variety of issues. She needs to stay in Congress to keep our Country
running on time. Adam Schif is going to be our next Senator and that is no
relection on Katie. We love them both.
K.I.S.S.
Female and Democrat. Ginsb-u-rg. U not E. How many fit that bill.
And I prefer Hadda be Playin on the Juke Box
“It had to be flashin’ like the daily double
It had to be playin’ on TV
It had to be loud mouthed on the comedy hour
It had to be announced over loud speakers
The CIA and the Mafia are in cahoots
It had to be said in old ladies’ language
It had to be said in American headlines
Kennedy stretched and smiled and got double crossed by lowlife goons and agents…”
How many iftars can a non-Muslim politician go to during Ramadan and take a picture? You know lent is a 40 day fast too. Lol. Christians believe in Jesus also. It’s called Holy Week. Lol!!
Not all fasts are created equal. Not eating meat is a far cry from not eating anything. I haven’t eaten meat since 1978, but I wouldn’t call it a “fast.”
You’re laughing at Christians believing in Jesus is noted. But I’ll say something controversial: there is nothing wrong with politicians attending multiple Iftars and having their picture taken. The problem is with people reading more into the gesture than it represents.
It’s called virtue signalling. Lent is a fasting period despite your desire to change facts. You missed the point.
Christians believe in Jesus? Holy shit! (Figuratively)
OCPA finally fires Probolsky although he gets till May 30, and who knows how big of a fucking golden parachute. This is only one item of reform promised, although it’s been a big deal to a lot of people.
And what’s with all the lavishing the Probe with praise, from the folks who’ve been talking shit about him for many months?
Tamster: “You’ve held composure and grace under pressure. I just applaud all your work and all your efforts. Kudos to you.”
Treseder: “I really appreciate Mr. Probolsky’s efforts at creating this agency.”
Trini: ““It is telling that despite the challenges and the uphill battles we’ve all shared together, you’ve provided so much leadership in bringing a team that will bring about this vision of transforming Orange County. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the work you’ve done.”
Are they scared of this guy or what?
https://voiceofoc.org/2023/04/orange-county-power-authority-fires-controversial-ceo-after-two-years-of-unrest/
It’s sickening Vern. And the real question is: who does Farrah align with going forward re OCPA, team lawyers or team dinghy broads? Kim threw Carroll and Kim under the bus but now she has ownership of the OCPA.
We need your help to report tax evasion and non profit fraud by a hate crime perpetrator, James Mai. See #JamesMaiHateCrime or this blog’s articles from last year and this January.
#JamesMai does not have a Board of Directors, so he cannot collect donations under Federal Law.
We are including all the evidence for you as a special convenience!
Attached is his nonprofit’s organization Federal Tax ID number 86-3845526.
Please include this Federal Tax ID number when filing the IRS complaint. For your convenience we have attached a link where you can find the IRS complaint form. https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/irs-complaint-process-tax-exempt-organizations
All you have to do is email the form to the IRS, no postage stamp needed!
If you want evidence that there is no Board of Directors, we attached it for your convenience, but you can click the link here and it shows everything.
https://rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/SearchResults.aspx
We will also email you information later for to report him to California Attorney General’s Office for tax fraud, but the IRS is the most serious violation.
We want to mention he did not even register his “charity” in California until a year and a half after he started collecting donations. Then only after a lot of people filed complaints.
He pretends to be a lawyer, but there is no listing of this being . The Cerritos journalist already did extensive investigation. Google “James Mai Hate Crime Cerritos”
Have a HateFree Day!
Again here is the link:
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/irs-complaint-process-tax-exempt-organizations
If you experience any trouble please email OChatecrimewatch@gmail.com
I’ll look at the evidence, but I have some questions before I do so.
To whom is this invitation addressed and why aren’t the persons issuing the invitation doing it themselves?
This seems suspicious to me. Perhaps you can explain why, if everything is in order, you’re issuing a general request for someone else to pursue it?
I will try and answer this because I have been helping send emails for a few months now about James Mai, including together with OC Hate Crime Watch. This was intended as a PSA (Public Service Announcement) on your news/opinion blog because the blog has a lot of traffic.
Nowhere was it said “Please do this on OUR behalf”.
When did OC Hate Crime Watch say this? They did not!
The idea of posting this here and sending out a mass email is to encourage others to also has a twofold purpose:
One, to expose financial wrongdoing and tax fraud. Second, to flood the IRS with complaints for swift action. They are more on it when they receive a multitude of complaints on one party.
After combing through the emails sent by the Shame Hate listserve managed by Sonal Kher, one thing that stood out was how she was able to engage others. The State Attorney General’s investigation on James Mai last fall was opened and dealt with quickly because of the sheer volume of complaints.
If you don’t want to participate you are free to not. It just seems strange to not want to, given how much attention you devoted to James Mai before. Or maybe, since you can’t use him as an excuse to take digs at Doug Chaffee, you simply lost interest in anything James Mai related. Others have not lost interest.
Nor should you assume some complaints have not already been made.
Instead of criticizing people who are trying to make a difference, you should ask yourself why you chased a dead end road with saying you would sue the County last July when you had no evidence that the County helped dox LC.
Actually, LC was betrayed by someone in Irvine who knew both her name and where she lived. That individual is also friends with James Mai. Like you, he is not welcome in the Democratic party because he is an agitator. He gave LC’s personal information to James Mai, who then doxxed her. It’s a stretch to believe someone at the County played a role in giving Mai the personal information of LC. So, for you to suddenly emphasize about evidence is a little strange, considering your own disregard of it.
Maybe you are averse to reporting fraud because what Dan’s story said is maybe true, that you yourself defrauded the government with collecting benefits.
Not sure how bashing someone encourages others to volunteer for your cause.
What story of Dan’s are you talking about, “HateFree OC”?
Such an allegation would be false, but I’m certainly interested in knowing where and when he made such an accusation in writing (or even conveyed it to others verbally, though that’s harder to prove.
Less interesting, but still worth knowing, is why you’d say that he published such a malicious and bogus charge if he hasn’t really done so.
I have a feeling it was one of Dan’s anonymous trash commenters, which of course Dan usually approves, and these folks don’t make a distinction.
Greg Diamond has done more to help LC from what I’ve seen even LC herself has said this.
It’s probably that Chris (OC Hate Crime watch) and the Hate Free OC (J.A) didn’t know that?
Greg, please be more courteous and less on the attack towards commenters when asking a question. Your response made probably them defensive,because it comes off pretty abrasive.
Their methods are legitimate,I assure you and there is value in getting a multitude of complaints.
As to the agitator who helped dox LC, I’ll go ahead and say his name:
#LuisHuang aka #LuisHuang4Irvine.
He may not be racist, but he sure AF is misogynist and his comments about SQS and CPN have gotten his ass kicked out of DPOC events. Luis cannot be trusted.
Unfortunately, LC doesn’t make good judgements when it comes to her friends,plus he was a little more than a friend, from what I’ve heard (from different folx,not just her).
Peace, everyone.
Chiara, thanks for being a level-headed voice on this. I’ll explain my take.
Filing a complaint with all of the details filled in,and then publishing it (with or without those details) — allowing people to reference or link to the published story — is a time honored way of rousing the public to a cause. (It also exposes one to legal liability, which is a bold and potentially dangerous move.)
But what was offered here wasn’t that.
This was sketching out some points that might ground a complaint and inviting people to do some of their own research, which some will likely do better than others. The result would be a mass of slightly differing and thus confusing individual stories going to the agency at issue.
Especially when denials of the contentions are mixed in, it generates a miasma of confusing and contradictory claims that leave investigators in despair of separating truth from distortions. It’s far better to present all of the truth — having already submitted it to the agency — in a single, citable post. An exception would be if one is trying to crowdsource research into the matter in order to refine it for submission to some agency, but that didn’t seem to be what was presented.
The problem we face with these serious (if true) allegations is that James Mai, who seems inclined to be litigious, would probably like nothing better than for his critics to do a shoddy job of attacking him, so that they could then point to that shoddy attack as a reason that other (actually more compelling) attacks on him should not be believed. In fact, it would make sense for his camp to actually gin up such flawed attacks so as to inoculate him against more effective criticism.
Mai has already taken a legal action against Cameron. (I’m not going to describe it.) While I don’t want to suppress all discussion of him and his actions, I don’t want to fling all sorts of mere accusa against the wall. I’m happy to report what’s newsworthy, but it’s the act of a formal complaint being filed somewhere by people with known identities that MAKES something newsworthy.
We don’t HAVE to hold ourselves to that high of a standard by law, but I think that in a matter that has had this much commotion about it it’s a good policy. We’re not here to be a handy lightning rod for anyone who wants to tempt Zeus without getting burned, but when something pretty clearly looks like it’s going to be newsworthy, we’re interested. This seemed too much like the former.
Enuff about James Mai already.
My first time making a comment on this blog. I think Greg should be applaused for being the first one to bring this in the public eye. Even if it was a swipe at Supervisor Doug Chaffee. You maybe do not know that while many people read, not everyone will comment, all the time. Maybe they thought since you were the one who broke the story, it was appropriate. If it’s ok, can I disconstruct your comment?
Greg: “I’ll look at the evidence, but I have some questions before I do so.”
Hi, Greg I am not the OP or the HateFreeOC, but I can try to clear up the confucion
Greg: “To whom is this invitation addressed and why aren’t the persons issuing the invitation doing it themselves?”
What you call an “invitation” is a Call to Action and it is straight out of Sonal’s playbook. From what has been said, you had a falling out with the Hindus assoicated with ShameHateOC, but if you had been on their list serve, this would not surprise you. I mean the call to action as in “everyone file this complaint” would not surprise you.
Greg: “This seems suspicious to me.”
Which part is suspicious and how?
Greg: “Perhaps you can explain why, if everything is in order, you’re issuing a general request for someone else to pursue it?”
This is a wierd comment from someone who used to be so involved in politics and civic involvment. You know yourself that a bunch of comments directed to a government agency has more effect than a few. The same request was made by pubic comment to the cities of Anaheim, Santa Ana, Laguna Niguel, Irvine, Brea, Newport Beach and some others. So they were just asking everyone and anyone to do it.
I hope this helps. I can also say this has shifted from a Hindu rights issue to a women’s rights issue due to the cyberstalking of both Cameron and Aarti Kaushal Chopra.
Sonal Kher also got a ton of abuse which is why she quit and nobody has seen or heard from her. I also hope you can be kinder to the next person who comments about anything. I can see how your responses would rub people some kind of wrong way.
See my response to Chiara above. That addresses most of what you have to say, and if anything I’ve missed is important you can reiterate in reply to this.
Let me explain that split with the Hindu community; I don’t recall whether I’ve done that here before.
I appreciated the efforts of the Hindu community in trying to get to the bottom of what happened with James Mai’s claim of having committed an act of anti-Hindu hatred. I was and am convinced that he did create the graphic that proclaimed his “victory” over a Hindu restaurateur who he claimed had tried to defraud him to a frankly implausible degree. They pressed me for evidence and I told them the above, but hadn’t been able to find any evidence that such a hate crime had ever happened, at least at an Indian restaurant in Orange. We agreed both that it was not clear that the event happened, but that in a sense that didn’t matter: simply making and spreading such a claim damaged the Hindu community by making them more fearful of hate crimes against them as well as possibly making such crimes more likely, by (my gloss here) lowering inhibitions against them.
At some point, I think after something related to India‘s domestic policy I told one or more of them that I was not a supporter of Prime Minister Modi and his party, the BJP. (I’m also not a fan of their opponents in the Congress-I party, of Nehru and the Gandhis, which has been notoriously corrupt. (The Indian parties I prefer — secular, feminist, educated classes, mostly leftist, protective of ethnic and religious minorities and if lower castes — have little chance of governing at anything higher than a state level.) This was a major turn-off for them, and they stopped coordinating with me and in some cases began to attack me (facially on other grounds)
OC being the Giant Attractor of anti-Communist and Anti-Mullah refugees from everywhere, l get how people feel the need to protect their ethnic homelands against progressive cosmopolitanism, so it is what it is. Being Jewish, I’m very aware of what it’s like to face down the reactionary nationalists in “the home country” — ain’t easy, ain’t pretty, ain’t for everyone.
*We would love to have the Literacy Rate in the OC. Nationally, 54% have LESS THAN
a 6th grade education. Bigotry is simply ignorance of others. We know some great Jews and we know very bad ones. We know great Christians and some of the worst people on the planet. We know great followers of Confucius and Buddha and we know less than ethical ones. Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and Central and South Americans, Native Americans…..you name it. Good and bad in every group. What do they say? “On a case by case basis!” Or as Rodney King said: “Can’t we all just get along?” We will say however that politics brings out extremes in any group….Red White or Blue!