Which Party do YOU want to be part of?
This wasn’t on my radar screen yesterday, until I read Norberto’s article, I didn’t realize both County Parties were electing new leaders last night, I was busy trying to write a proper remembrance of Al Mijares, working on “Who’s Going to Jail at Disney for the Biggest Wage Theft in History?”, and starting Tenants United Anaheim to get real rent control here. But this was BIG – Ada Briceño and Fred Whitaker were fixing to be replaced by Florice Hoffman and Will O’Neill. Woo-hoo, hope and change!
Photo Leonard Ortiz: The times they are a-changing!
The most important part of Norberto’s story (besides learning that Ada’s plan is to take Sharon Quirk-Silva’s termed-out assembly seat in ’26, about which I have no comment) is Supervisor Don Wagner‘s last-minute, sleazy grasps at the chairmanship Newport Mayor O’Neill has been running for for many months. As Don e-mailed committee members:
“…One thing I do know about the day after our Chairman vote is that I will remain a county supervisor with all of the influence, connections, and opportunities that entails, with access to donors, business interests, the grassroots, and two decades of contacts around the state. Whether that unique position and influence are put in service of the party as Chairman or not is for the committee to determine Monday night.”
Alarm bells go off. This is Supervisor Wagner, who stood by and vouched for Andrew Do to the very last minute, even longer than Chaffee did. This is Wagner who, having worked for years beside Do, Michelle Steel & Janet Nguyen, still boldly claimed “There is no corruption in Orange County.”
Yeah, we all have our own understanding of the word “corruption.” Do used his office to financially profit himself and his family, Wagner sounds like he’s offering to use his office to benefit his Party and increase his power. “As Supervisor [I have] access to donors & business interests [which I could] put in service of the Party.” Shake down County contractors anyone? For whatever reason 51 committee members, long pledged to O’Neill, were unimpressed; Wagner got 11 votes, and Fullerton’s Bruce Whitaker, who unexpectedly ran, got 10.
In the contest to be the next Fred Whitaker. In the contest to preside over the long decline of the Republican Party in OC, while striving daily to keep peace between the varying degrees of crazy in your caucus. All three contenders pledged to “grow the Party,” to “re-energize the base,” to “unify and expand, to reach out to independents and minorities.” But if you’re not either rich and greedy, or unnaturally hostile to immigrants, gays and progress, why would you even want to be a Republican? Riddle us that. These guys are like a bunch of old mop salesmen, with nothing but old mops, each saying they’ll be the best one.
[By the way if you wanna know what Will O’Neill, the new OCGOP chairman, thinks about practically anything, he’s written 37 columns on the “OC Independent” in the last three years.]
And then, the Democrats.
While all this was going on, the Democratic Party of OC was coronating (unopposed) long-time treasurer Florice Hoffman to take the place of Ada Briceño. Or, to phrase it differently, as the Republican torch was passed from white corporate lawyer to white corporate lawyer, the Democratic one was passed from union leader to union leader. I can’t say much about the DPOC, because the Anaheim Dems Club (of which I’m just a member, not an officer) is still fighting for its charter with them.
Except to point out:
- Florice voted against our charter (as did Ada.)
- We were never given a reason, OR the requisite 60 days notice that our charter would be voted on.
- Florice was one of the loudest voices against a DPOC Gaza ceasefire resolution last year.
- The Anaheim Dems Club passed a Gaza ceasefire resolution last year.
- DPOC will not confirm, deny or admit that had anything to do with us losing our charter, and
- Hey – I thought me and Florice were friends decades ago, what happened?
Our President Steve White was shut out of the DPOC meeting last night; I may update this when I get more reports out of that gathering. Meanwhile the ranks of independents continue to swell…
Florice just is the image of enthusiasm. Doesn’t she get you excited to pitch in? This is the best the local party could do? Eww.
Dumb dumb Donny is desperate for attention and power.
And, apparently we no longer have to worry about Adam Briceno locally. Bye Adam!!
As is true nationally, the truth is so much worse than you know.
Yes, Florice would have trouble motivating the masses, if she were serious about it. But frankly, that goal gets mostly lip service, as it can be produced by taking credit for success stemming from other people’s work.
The work of DPOC is maintaining iron-fisted control over the process of who advances, so that future chits may be cashed in.
This is in service of the pink-lavender-crimson (the last substituting for “red,” which is now taken) coalition that has dominated the local party since Henry Vandermeir was replaced.
Most of this is in the purpose of suppressing green and rose — environmentalism (whenever unions oppose it, which is often) and social democracy, which embarrasses them by giving the lie to the notion that they are the outer limits of reasonability. (Also, it’s making the hardline pro-Israel voters happy at the cost of the fates of at least non-sheik Arabs and most Muslims.
Honestly, most of these decisions could probably be controlled by a decent AI program with maybe 55 minutes of training.
Misgendering Ada as “Adam” is another instance of his being piggish, Vern. Neshanian continually bubbles over with misogyny — and sadly he is seen as representative of this blog, even though he’s only here because the software doesn’t allow him to be banned.
It was a reference to the pink turd’s lead referring to her as Adam. [Asshole commend deleted.]
And the pink turd is on [Agranista asshole comment deleted.]
Too bad for you that you’ve squandered all benefit of the doubt by this point. Your comment has been edited.
Wow. I am absolutely shockingly underwhelmed.
If Ada wants to replace Quirk she’s going to have to explain a few things to Tony Bushala – such as Ajay Mohan, Tony Castro, and who in the OCDems was involved in the creation, and the suborned pejury of Scott Markowitz.
I doubt that she agrees with you on that. She can usually just rumble forward based on the work of her advisors and the inattentiveness of both voters and prosecutors.
If you really wanted to see action, you’d need to create a report on Mohan, Castra, Markowitz to submit to the Grand Jury. Then you’d at least have a shot.
I don’t know what counter you’d have planned for Ada, but a “Bad Chi” or “Carpetbagger” sort of approach won’t cut it. Just letting you know.
I wouldn’t worry. It’ll be good.
Your frustration with Florice Hoffman’s actions and the broader dynamics of the Democratic Party in Orange County (OC) is palpable, and it’s clear that the issues at play go beyond personal grievances to a larger systemic critique. Your commentary highlights the often-cloistered, opaque nature of party politics, where loyalty and decisions are not always transparent, and actions seem disconnected from the grassroots realities of their constituencies.
Florice Hoffman’s ascent within the DPOC, unopposed, mirrors the same corporate-elite continuity that you’ve rightly noted in the Republican Party—where political power shifts from one entrenched figure to another, both seemingly cut from the same cloth of corporate law and high-level maneuvering. The transition from Ada Briceño to Hoffman, both powerful within the party machinery, signals the persistence of a certain corporate monoculture within the Democratic Party, despite its professed roots in union labor and progressive politics.
It’s ironic, and not entirely surprising, that Hoffman, who represents this continuity, was among the loudest dissenters against a Gaza ceasefire resolution—a move that clearly sets her at odds with some of the more progressive factions within the local party. The distinction between her stance and that of the Anaheim Dems Club, who passed a similar resolution, underscores the internal divides within the party, where establishment figures often resist or ignore the evolving demands of grassroots members.
Moreover, the fact that your club’s charter request was denied—without clear explanation or proper notice—further reveals a pattern of top-down control that privileges the establishment over new, potentially disruptive voices. The transparency issues you raise—especially regarding whether the DPOC’s rejection of your charter was a retaliatory move—speak to a deeper problem within the party: the reluctance to embrace new ideas or allow for real debate, often for fear that it might destabilize the carefully constructed order of the political elite.
It’s also worth noting that personal relationships, such as the one you had with Florice decades ago, often clash with the pragmatic, sometimes cold political calculus that drives these decisions. The emotional toll of seeing someone you once considered a friend align with a political establishment you now see as self-serving is a significant betrayal for many grassroots activists.
Ultimately, your frustration with the DPOC and Florice Hoffman’s role in it speaks to a larger issue within modern political parties: the failure to evolve with the times and the alienation of activists who wish to see real change. As you point out, the growing ranks of independents indicate a clear, systemic problem—a disconnect between the people who hope to create meaningful change and the party structures that too often protect the status quo.
Is this the best reader ever, or has AI made a sudden quantum leap?
It does seem a little too perfect.
I second that emotion on both accounts.
If it is AI, we are doomed!
May as well fill the time with an old Florice story. We knew each other from DFA (Democracy For America). In 2004 or 6, she was running against Ed Royce for Congress, and the tiny blue-eyed bastard was impossible to track down but she wanted to get him to debate her. So when he held a “meet-and-greet” at the Orange Circle, she asked me to attend and present her challenge.
I waited for him with all these rightwing Royce fans, who were all planning to ask him “When you gonna BUILD THAT WALL, Ed?” (Yes, Republican politicians were promising their voters a WALL way back then to keep the Mexicans out.) I told them what I was there for and they all agreed. “Hell yeah, he should debate. We would love to see Ed debate a Democrat.”
When I got to the front of the line I had my spiel planned out. (Goddamn that short little guy’s eyes were gigantic and bright blue, like the Looney Toons satires of “Frankie” Sinatra.) I reminded him of the Lincoln-Douglas debates and how young Lincoln chased Senator Douglas around Illinois till Douglass gave in and debated him, “and people forget but Douglas won that election – partly because he stopped looking like a chickenshit who was afraid to debate.”
Ed laughed and said “I don’t want to debate Florice, I want to debate YOU!” He must have thought that was really funny because he said it three times. “I’m not running against you, Ed!” Where was all my backup from the crowd? They had gone back to just wanting to bug Ed about BUILDING THE WALL, which he assured them would be built very soon.
I remember the Little Corporal was always afraid of a potential political Democrat threat in his (then) very safe district. The hopeless Molly McClanhan ran against him in1992 and got walloped. To that end he foisted useless Repuglicans on Fullerton that wouldn’t make Janesse Flory Mayor. This kept going into the 2000s.
This is why we love Vern.
It’s always good to see you here, Mr. Springsteen.
Florice using other people to do her heavy lifting. That sounds about right.
Either way the DPOC leadership has non Latino, Zionist leadership at the top…
They even made a new position to accommodate Ms. Johnson-Norris.
ADA’s Latino Muslim collaboration is certainly dead now.
In principle, having an executive VP (or whatever the new position doesn’t bother me.) In practice, its strengthening the power of the Sdao faction of South County “Ladies Who Punch (Hippies)” makes the party more insulated and weaker. But putting aside the megalomania, they’ll do as good a job of resisting Trump as almost anyone else. It’s not really a complicated agenda when we’re resisting a fascist dictator. If Labor lurches towards MAGA in order to get the contracts and JAWBS it wants (and don’t rule it out — the Trades don’t give a shit about collective bargaining and strikes), then they’ve got a huge problem that they’re not equipped to deal with, but they can cross that bridge (or fail to) when they come to it.
Not doing heavy lifting is Ada’s signature problem. I don’t see why you try to hand that around Florice’s neck. Florice is a hard worker, especially when it comes to rat-fucking rivals and reformers. She’s not lazy or incompetent. In fact, her style is similar to that of your love-object Agran.
As for the Zionist thing, “yes” and “of course.” How people can believe that Jews dominate politics and at the same time think that it should be easy for political figures to resist demands of Jewish leaders is a mystery to me.
Yes, this is not going to be a time with great focus on Latinos and Muslims — but at least the Latinos will get tokenism and lip service!
(I’m really surprised that Ada is not running for State Senate — she has always seemed, after all, to be a woman in a hurry.)
New OC red party chair sees blood in the water. My nickname Willie the weenie. He thinks palisade and Eaton fire could have been saved with hydrants and hoses.
https://x.com/TheDailyPilot/status/1880389808213950884?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet&mx=2
It’s the stepford wives meets monsters, inc. honestly, this is creepy. Stop empowering these people. They are weirdos. They both look like iterations of the church lady.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DE0gOZyzgxK/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
You’re being a sexist shithead, Eric. Stop it.
There is, incidentally, no way for any Democratic force in OC to “stop empowering them.” They’ve made absolutely sure of that. All we can do is try to make them more effective advocates, and that will not happen easily.
I will note here and many more times that the idea of giving no ground towards their being legitimate interests (and fears, and hopes) on BOTH sides of the conflict in and around Israel is one of the two main reasons that Trump is President now. The Clampdown was a terrible strategic error. If they had actually listened to Palestinian/Muslim/Arab leaders, they’d have known that.
The right thing to do was also the smart thing to do: to recognize the interests of both sides, to criticize extremism and embrace cooperation on both sides. That is what the spooky and horrific resolution I wrote tried to do. If that had been done on a national scale, without worrying about AIPAC and its ilk (which fucked us over ANYWAY), then the past half-day might not have been the worst in American history. They may not be willing to listen, but I and others are not willing to stop talking. Trump will undermine Israel when the mood strikes him, and then maybe they will learn.
Scary people alert. This is troubling. That’s the best the DPOC could do to fill Larry’s seat. It just shows you how detached the DPOC is. I thought they were over the culture war. Mujajaja. Notice that a DPOC bootlicking lapdog wrote the DPOC article.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DE_Ed30San4/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/entertainment/story/2025-01-16/florice-hoffman-chair-democratic-party-oc
The only names I know there are Tammy and Kuo — and Kuo is truly horrible. Tammy — who as you’re concerned does not have a nickname, get it? — might be a thorn in Agran’s side, but my guess is that they will reach a rapprochement. Tammy would probably be in a position to work well with Go and Liu in a way that Agran might not — and she would be in a better position to undercut James Mai. I don’t know how the hell James Mai got elected Vice-Mayor — due to, or despite, Agran? — but blocking that bigot’s ascent is Job 1 after sinking Kuo. I expect that Tammy is best positioned to do so — and whatever priorities lead you to hate her are secondary.
As I remember, Agran nominated Mai for Vice.
Party doesn’t matter in Irvine. The two politicians who hate each other most now in Irvine are Tammy and Larry. Is Larry even still registered Democrat?
Tammi it is, then. Plaguing
AhabAgran is starting to count as a job qualification.I presume (though do not know) that Agran and Mai would have Carroll on their side — or is Carroll too affiliated with Five Point to want to go after Captain Larry’s Moby-Dick? (What is Agran’s motivation these days? Still revenge? Or just proving his continued potency?)
That means that Tammy and Treseder would probably be in an opposing faction. Any idea where Liu and Go fit in?
(Neshanian, I’m just going to delete whatever you have to say about Irvine until you can stop being a pig, so don’t bother. I will not leave even your comments unadulterated.)
The votes I know of this year have pitted Larry and the two Republicans against Treseder and the two new Asian Dems. There may be other votes that went some other way. Getting out of OCPA was unanimous.
I don’t understand what Neshanian did to be considered a pig; all he said was that Anthony Kuo is a weird character akin to a SNL “Church Lady.” And on a different thread he called the new OCGOP Will O’Neill a weenie, which is true!
You’re right, you don’t understand. Want me to spell it out at novella length here?
Toni Kuo is one weird bird. Another interation of the church lady. And, definitely scary. But, atleast he ain’t a carpetbagger with dual identities.
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=999408582009927&id=100058223824259
Willie the Weenie goes to Washington and promptly gets locked in a room by himself during the inauguration.
https://x.com/RealWillONeill/status/1881370615879487643?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet&mx=2
Rumor on the street is that Willie really was a Weenie before arriving in Newport Beach.
https://youtu.be/b2xYYHU89bk (Der Wienerschnitzel commercial)
Tammy and the DPOC have got bigger problems now in Irvine. Someone has lawyered up and demanded her name be withdrawn from the special election as she is not a district 5 candidate. This is the best the DPOC can do in the third largest city in the county. Not much of a ground game.
https://irvine.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=68&event_id=2525&meta_id=159537
She doesn’t have to live in District 5; this is a citywide election. We’ve discussed this here before.
Willie the Weenie takes Tammy for a ride.
https://x.com/RealWillONeill/status/1882843689443275172?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
He’s a dipshit. Did he even talk to the ROV? This is just one of the problems that always just needs to be shaken out after a while after districting.
I don’t think people believe you Greg.
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/entertainment/story/2024-12-11/larry-agran-irvine-mayor-special-election
This Gabriel story is behind a paywall, I can’t read it.
Quote the part that contradicts Greg.
I was able to get past the paywall. (I’m not sure why. Maybe I subscribed to some introductory offer.) Here’s what Gabriel wrote:
Boldface emphasis indicates the problem. We’ve all been lazy about talking about this as a “District 5” seat just because that’s what it will become in 2026. But Larry Agran was not elected to a “District 5” seat in 2022. He was elected to an “at-large” seat. He served in an at-large seat. The nature of that seat did not change from an “at-large” to “District 5” after he occupied it; nor does it change because a special election happens to intervene. District 5 — like the other district(s) with “At-Large” representation, which I think are 6 and maybe 4 — will have their first-ever district elections in 2026. Tammy Kim (unless she actually has moved to D5) will at that time become ineligible to serve — but by that time her term will be over!
What I’ve read (by an election law person, and I’ll hope I find it again soon) is that the electorate at the time the seat was created — that is, when Agran was elected — determines what happens to the seat he left. Those are the voters who had their right to vote invested in the seat. And so those are the voters who get to decide who fills the remainder of the term for that 2022 election, which was a citywide vote: they voted for an office with a four-year term, and that’s what they must receive. Because that was a citywide vote, it remains so, and therefore the seat is open for everyone who was eligible to run.
With all due respect to Gabriel, he should have called not only the City Clerk, who administers the election, but also or instead the County Registrar of Voters to get the reliable truth.
Before I read Eric’s additional comment below, I had thought that there was no lawsuit threatened or pending. I then wrote the following, and am keeping it in this comment even though it no longer applies, just because it’s fun!)
Gabriel might want to call Agran and see if he denies having any direct or attenuated (through colleagues or cut-outs) relationship with the Irvine citizen who got a Sacramento firm to sue on his behalf. I’m really curious as to whether he’ll lie about it.
P.S.: Why did Tammy Kim refile as coming from District 5? Presumably because smart people have back-up plans! And if she does run in 2026, might as well move now!
Scoldesang – the aggrieved party – threatening litigation ran for mayor against Agran. He is a Republican.
If Tammy didn’t have to reside in district 5 to run then why did she concoct a story about being a crime victim in District 3 during her mayoral campaign which caused her to serendipitously move to district 3. She obviously believes she has to be a district 5 resident to qualify for the ballot designation.
Tammy has plenty of detractors in Irvine. Some of them being former DGI members or nor named Larry Agran.
What is your animus towards Larry based on?? Jealous much perhaps?
Not jealous of him at all, but that’s echt Neshanian to suggest that. He’s as self-serving and unyielding as Trump is. He’s was willing to make the whole city suffer (and ultimately lose out on its Veteran’s Cemetery because he only wanted it under the condition that it would fuck over his enemies at Five Point. I hold no brief for Five Point, but he was pitting his petty revenge over the benefit to the City (and to veterans in OC) and that’s a permanent blot on his record. (Of course, his being a Democratic Trump is why you love him.)
If Tammy believes that she had to move to District 5, it was because the Clerk and/or ROV told them so — and they were wrong to do so. But the decision to relocate would make sense if she wanted to run for re-election in 2026, even if it wasn’t required in 2025, and I don’t think that one has to look further than that.
“Tammy has plenty of detractors in Irvine.” Irrelevant, Counselor.
“People” can be as few as two, so I suppose you are technically correct: Gabriel and his source.
But your implication is “people in general,” and your assertion smells like elderberries.
“After being sworn in, Irvine’s new council discussed a special election to fill the vacancy. Per city law, the vote would be limited to roughly 28,500 registered voters in District 5, which that was not up for election in November.”
https://www.latimes.com/socal/daily-pilot/entertainment/story/2024-12-11/larry-agran-irvine-mayor-special-election
See my previous comment. Has Agran ever represented solely District 5? When did the nature of the four-year-term seat filled in the election of 2022 supposedly change?
There is another article.
https://www.ocregister.com/2025/01/20/four-candidates-will-vye-for-irvines-district-5-seat-in-april-15-special-election/amp/
Please quote the relevant portion of the paywalled article for our readers.
(I actually did just sign up for a subscription to the OCR, but I’m not getting in. Or maybe that was the LAT? So much to boycott these days!)
You may have missed my argument when 3 days of our comments got consigned to spam, but go read it not. Summary: Agran’s seat was — and remains until it ends in near the end of 2026 — an at-large seat. We’ve been calling it District 5 because that’s what it will become, but it hasn’t become that yet. Tammy’s moving to District 5 is not an admission of guilt: she’s setting herself up to be an at-large Councilmember in 2025 and then to get re-elected to the seat with this boundaries when it comes up for the first time as a district election in 2026. Go read my recent stories now. I’ll add a separate response explaining why.
I realize that the ROV calls this the District 5 election.
https://ocvote.gov/sites/default/files/elections/2025IrvineD5/Web%20Condensed%20Calendar%204.15.25.pdf
This is wrong — and if I have to go to court to prove it I will (though I’ll bet that Florice can find someone else that she’s willing to see paid.)
If you go to the OCROV’s Election Results Archive, you’ll find this result:
CITY OF IRVINE Member, City Council
(VOTE FOR 2)
Candidate Name Total Votes Percentage
LARRY AGRAN 31,023 23.86%
KATHLEEN TRESEDER 29,440 22.65%
ANTHONY KUO 27,272 20.98%
JOHN PARK 24,891 19.15%
SCOTT HANSEN 12,481 9.60%
NAVID SADIGH 4,895 3.77%
The term for this position was to last for four years. That’s what the voters of the city voted for. District 5 was not supposed to get District representation until December 2026.
Treseder is still listed on the City Council site as an At-Large candidate. Agran was presumably At-Large as well. He quit that position when he became Mayor. This election is for the rest of his term. That was an at-large terms.
The City Council vote should not matter at all. The Council has no right to abrogate a term of office early once voters have voted for a candidate to fill that office for the full term. As I recall, they had the right to appoint someone — and on my reading it could have been one from anywhere in the city had they so chosen — but once they chose an election it had to be to fill the exact term of office that had become vacated. They can no more cut off the length of that At-Large term than they can cut off — or extend — the current Mayor’s term to their liking.
Maybe they’re doing it — but if so they’re abrogating a vested right of the 2022 electorate. It should be stopped. I’ll go look into the discussion of this from back when Agran won.
OK, to my shock, the explanation is on Chumley’s website, likely spoon-fed to him by some Agranista.
https://theliberaloc.com/2024/11/18/the-irvine-special-election-to-replace-mayor-elect-agran-will-be-district-5-only/
The Amendment to the City Charter Rule 400 restructuring the City Council contains the following:
OK, it says what it says — and now the question is whether what it says is constitutional. I think that disenfranchising the voters (which is what this is) from giving force to the results of an election that was completed 16 months before the public approved this charter amendment passes constitutional muster because it disturbs those voters’ settled expectations. Could a citywide charter amendment also extend Agran’s current term as Mayor for another ten years, notwithstanding any other provision of this Article, despite the settled contrary expectations of voters? On the basis of the principle that “we don’t have to live up to what voters were previously told at the time they voted,” it doesn’t seem as implausible as it should be.
Irvine’s next round of redistricting — when lines can conceivably be drawn to snag people out of their districts and placing them in a district what would abrogate their right to remain in their seat for a full four years — seems likely to be horrific.
Yea, “in other words” if you can’t fucking read, dimwit.
Agran (I presume, given that this contains an exemption for Mayoral terms prior to 2014) wrote a section saying that his term would be abrogated in the event that he resigned — as he hoped to be able to do after being elected Mayor. The right that was violated here was that of the electors. I believe that this could be successfully challenged in court. Tammy could do so, but Florice could and should be able to do so as well. I’ll use whatever channels I have to make sure she sees this and hopefully gets a move on it before the judge in Sacramento rules.
[Eric has exceeded his monthly quota of comments.]
So what you are saying Greg is you were wrong.
Well he may be right on the law, and could maybe prevail in court, but that’s not what Irvine in their vast wisdom decided to do.
Yeah, they decided — without “vast wisdom,” but with overweening self-interest — to deprive Irvine voters of their right to have a term of office they voted for extend for the period indicated.
A court should decide this.
Two home Tammy responds. Blames Republicans not Larry Agran. https://www.instagram.com/tammykimoc/p/DFS6hexPTff/
I wonder who that “well-known OC GOP operative” is who’s been “going around boasting” about attacking Tammy?
Could easily be Carroll or Mai. Or Eric, if we judge solely by appearances and not registration.
No one is being attacked. And she doesn’t factually rebut the demand letter to the city.