In reading today’s Drudge Report I see that Town Hall just published a disturbing story by Chuck Norris based on Obamacare. Chuck directs us to page 838 of the House Bill which he claims reference to sections 440 and 1904 of the proposed plan.
After reading Chuck’s report, and perhaps the page in question, let’s open up this page for Juice reader review and comments. We will conduct our own Town Hall Internet style just as we do for all of our Orange Juice posts.
Following is my edited portion of the story. You can read the entire text at the link posted at the end.
Tuesday, August 11, 2009
Dirty Secret No. 1 in Obamacare
by Chuck Norris
While watching these political hot August nights, I decided to research the reasons so many are opposed to Obamacare to separate the facts from the fantasy. What I discovered is that there are indeed dirty little secrets buried deep within the 1,000-plus page health care bill.
Dirty secret No. 1 in Obamacare is about the government’s coming into homes and usurping parental rights over child care and development.
It’s outlined in sections 440 and 1904 of the House bill (Page 838), under the heading “home visitation programs for families with young children and families expecting children.” The programs (provided via grants to states) would educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills.
The bill says that the government agents, “well-trained and competent staff,” would “provide parents with knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains … modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices,” and “skills to interact with their child to enhance age-appropriate development.”
Are you kidding me?! With whose parental principles and values? Their own? Certain experts’? From what field and theory of childhood development? As if there are one-size-fits-all parenting techniques! Do we really believe they would contextualize and personalize every form of parenting in their education, or would they merely universally indoctrinate with their own?
Are we to assume the state’s mediators would understand every parent’s social or religious core values on parenting? Or would they teach some secular-progressive and religiously neutered version of parental values and wisdom? And if they were to consult and coach those who expect babies, would they ever decide circumstances to be not beneficial for the children and encourage abortions?
One government rebuttal is that this program would be “voluntary.” Is that right? Does that imply that this agency would just sit back passively until some parent needing parenting skills said, “I don’t think I’ll call my parents, priest or friends or read a plethora of books, but I’ll go down to the local government offices”? To the contrary, the bill points to specific targeted groups and problems, on Page 840: The state “shall identify and prioritize serving communities that are in high need of such services, especially communities with a high proportion of low-income families.”
Are we further to conclude by those words that low-income families know less about parenting? Are middle- and upper-class parents really better parents? Less neglectful of their children? Less needful of parental help and training? Is this “prioritized” training not a biased, discriminatory and even prejudicial stereotype and generalization that has no place in federal government, law or practice?
Bottom line: Is all this what you want or expect in a universal health care bill being rushed through Congress? Do you want government agents coming into your home and telling you how to parent your children? When did government health care turn into government child care?
Government needs less of a role in running our children’s lives and more of a role in supporting parents’ decisions for their children. Children belong to their parents, not the government. And the parents ought to have the right — and government support — to parent them without the fed’s mandates, education or intervention in our homes.
How contrary is Obamacare’s home intrusion and indoctrination family services, in which state agents prioritize houses to enter and enforce their universal values and principles upon the hearts and minds of families across America?
Government’s real motives and rationale are quite simple, though rarely, if ever, stated. If one wants to control the future ebbs and flows of a country, one must have command over future generations. That is done by seizing parental and educational power, legislating preferred educational methods and materials, and limiting private educational options. It is so simple that any socialist can understand it. As Josef Stalin once stated, “Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed.”
To read the entire report simply click on the following link:
http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/08/11/dirty_secret_no_1_in_obamacare?page=full
What is new??
They are doing the same with with Health families program and other Orange County social services programs.
Bottom line is alot of unwed mother, kids having kids are causing, hugh social and economic problems, its a fact and its growing. Going to their homes and teaching them to be a parent has not worked, does not work and will not work. The only thing that will work is cut all the welfare!
And stupit in home parent classes!
This health care bill is just another etempt for social engineering that does not help with dead beats with a dead beat education!
“Will the government enter our homes usurping parental child care rights?”… said Gilbert.
Mr. Gilbert, do you know that your Homeowners Association can do that right now, without a cause, with only tree days notice and you did agree to that?
I am observing you for some time Mr. Gilbert and I do not understand your bitching, frankly.
You must be consistent in order to be taken seriously.
A makework project for overeducated goofs proving yet again the government’s capacity for absurd waste. While the PC police are visiting maybe they should also check up on our recycling practices and then give us classes about anti-discrimination sensitiviy and low-fat cooking.
And it won’t cost anything to anyone because it will all be funded by a special 1/10th of 1% surtax on incomes over $10,000,000.
A lot of health depends on your living condition, a visit by a health professional to look for mold etc could help save your life and save everyone money.
There should be in this however a provision that the visiting person needs to get permission from the occupant of the home and give proir notice to the home being visited.
Not that having a visit by itself will change anything. But doctors used to visit all the time, I am sure this helped them find the contributing causes to problems.
Observer.
You must be my friend Stanley F’s next door neighbor.
One major difference. Those of us who purchase homes in HOA neighborhoods must sign for receipt of a thick legal document which spells out what we can and cannot do with our homes.
There is no apple-to-apples comparison to be made here.
Jim.
Living conditions? Are you now suggesting that any family living in an apartment or home with ants and roaches or lacking A/C needs to be moved to a newer government project such as Justice Sotomayor grew up in?
Where do you draw the line in defining living conditions anyway?
“You must be my friend Stanley F’s”…. no but I am continuing on your inconsistency which he so eloquently shown here.
I have clearly stated that you have agreed by signing your CC&Rs so there are no defenses.
Why would you agree for Homeowner Association to enter your home and would object to Health Association to do same?
You will have same choice like you have in housing.
Private home v. Homeowner Association.
Private health v. Health Association.
So do not buy the Health Association and let poor people do so.
In such case it is not your business whether the government will enter their home!
It is not your home!
Not everyone has $15,000 to pay for private health anualy.
So stop posting your socialistic crapola which has nothing to do with you and is oppressive to poor.
Not suggesting that we move anyone to a government housing project, I think they are a bad idea, a breeding ground for criminals.
Most people can with a little effort improve thier living conditions, if it is a rental then the landlord should be brought in to the mix if repairs are needed.
Cleaning, perhaps a bug spray or caulking to seal cracks in most cases will solve most problems.
observer. While some of my friends are elected officials of our homeowners association, HOA, MVEA, I do not recall giving any member of the association permission to enter my home. What are you smoking this afternoon anyway?
MVEA board members have made comments about the exterior appearances of neighborhood homes, illegal room additions, illegally parked vehicles and color of exterior paint selections. To repeat. They have only been able to enter my home when invited. While not from MO. kindly show me where you are getting your information that MVEA can enter my home as you alleged above.
Jim.
The health care plan, as written, goes well beyond cleanliness. It extends to what we are teaching our children about life. Do you want a government representative “telling you” how to raise your family? That potential involvement must be kept “out of bounds”.
Mr. Gilbert, just because your MVEA board members do not feel that they should inspect you home does not nullify their rights to enter it, even over your objection. Check your CC&Rs.
Likewise, the government will probably never visit homes of 99.9999% of insured.
So what is your problem?
Jesus told you to scare poor people? Mr. Gilbert
Not good!
If they are recommending things that can help, like not feeding the kids fast food 3 or 4 times a week, encouraging children to get more excercise, I am ok with an outside person making recommendations.
I would have a problem if it goes beyond that, into making it conditional for receiving health care or some other mandatory provision.
We tell people all the time they have to work if they can to recieve welfare so some conditions are good. Only women with young children and the disabled are exempt. Thanks to President Clintons and the Republican Congress working together on Welfare Reform.
observer.
I just had breakfast with a former director of our HOA. Perhaps you have a different copy of our CC&R’s but he disagrees with your statement. They cannot simply enter our home.
What he did point out is that even the city can send someone into your home if you are doing any electrical wiring, or messing with gas lines that could present a public safety hazard.
Are you still misleading the public about the health care plan, Larry?
You have already lost when you falsely claimed people like Dr. Hawking would get denied health care in the planned system.
In fact, Dr. Hawking told a British newspaper (the Guardian) that he would be dead had it NOT been for the NHS, the British national health care system.
So, you should enter reality, and stop your false and misleading propaganda.