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What are those Vietnamese who would try to keep the LGBT community out of the upcoming Tet parade in Little Saigon trying to hide?
[Update: Voice of OC has more at this link, including news of a planned protest today for 3 p.m. at the Westminster offices of parade organizers at 14550 Magnolia St. It would be much smarter for parade organizers not fight to to discriminate.]
As I hope all in Orange County would agree, I am proud that we are home to the largest and strongest expatriate Vietnamese community in the world. As with the other ethnic and racial groups comprising the melange of our county, our Vietnamese community brings something to us that improves our collective culture and binds us to the rest of the world. I’m pleased that they hold a significant and joyous parade in Little Saigon to celebrate Tet, their New Year.
And … sorry, but they don’t get to discriminate against lesbians, gays, and the like. Maybe that was OK in Vietnam; it’s still OK here, if they want, in private homes and private functions. But in a public function, you don’t get to say that someone else can’t take part due to their sexual orientation. It would be as if at the Pride celebrations of the LGBT communities, they decided that Vietnamese couldn’t participate. We’d all be rightly outraged.
That is not the American way — and as Orange County’s Vietnamese are American citizens and residents, it should not be the Vietnamese-American way either. We in OC respect the Vietnamese community here — but we demand in turn that, when putting forth a public event, the Vietnamese community respects others as well regardless of their demographic characteristics.
Adding injury to insult, apparently one or more school districts want to spend public funds on a discriminatory parade — what I’ve heard is that a school district wants to put a school bus and a paid driver into the discriminatory parade. That, I’m sorry to say, is to ask for a lawsuit. Any public official who tries to spend other people’s tax money to satisfy their own taste for discrimination deserves all of the grief they will have coming to them. By the way — don’t try to apply what you think you know about federal law here; discrimination in public accommodations on account of sexual orientation is forbidden in the California Constitution. Don’t be fooled by know-nothings who say that there’s no federal law against discrimination against LGBTs — yet. They’re going to cost you money.
I’ve been a member-by-marriage of two Asian communities in my life: the Goan Indian community in the 1980s and 1990s and the Filipino community for almost the past six years. In both, I had LGBT cousins-in-law. Generally, they were tolerated (even warmly embraced) in private, but not recognized as such in public. That doesn’t fly anymore here and now. Whatever cultural or political advantage the bigots think they gain by this discriminatory action, the rest of us have to tell them plainly that fighting this losing battle will cost them more than they imagine its worth. No one is going to try to “force them to become gay” — and, historically, if anyone did it would be someone closeted, not someone out and proud.
If you think that they should open the Tet Parade in Little Saigon to those who are open about their LGBT status, here’s a petition for you to sign. Get your friends to do so as well. To my Republican friends who seem to be realizing that gay-baiting is no longer the road to political victory, here’s a chance for you to prove that you can be as welcoming of diversity as are us Democrats. I highly suggest that you take it; I’d love for both major parties to be on the right side of this issue.
Why can’t the LGBT’s pony up the few hundred thousand dollaes and put on their own parade?
They shouldn’t have to. This is a public event. Thanks for caring, though.
What public government agency is putting on this parade and how much in public tax dollars are they spending?
The tax dollars would, as I understand it, be spent by a participant — a public school district wanting to send out a bus and driver — not the sponsor. The cities privatized the parade so that the new sponsor could discriminate in this way. It was very clever; I’m sure that they’re surprised that the rest of us eventually figured it out. But “NO GAYZ ALLOWD” was a pretty big hint.
It’s not public if the $60k funds were raised in private. Westminster is broke.
Perhaps the Vietnamese in the City Council have a higher sense of morality and choose to not act in ‘contradiction to all past historical experience’.
“… communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, AND ALL MORALITY, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore ACTS IN CONTRADICTION TO ALL PAST HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE.”
http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html#1883German
Karl Marx and Frederick Engels
Manifesto of the Communist Party 1848
II – Proletarians and Communists (Page 14)
“Undoubtedly,” it will be said, “religious, moral, philosophical, and juridicial ideas have been modified in the course of historical development. But religion, morality, philosophy, political science, and law, constantly survived this change.”
“There are, besides, eternal truths, such as Freedom, Justice, etc., that are common to all states of society. But communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.”
Is that why Lyndon LaRouche tried to give me a blowjob in his car back when I was 14?
greg, i may need to retain your services….last year my friends and i wanted to have a float in the long beach gay/queer/birkenstock/metrosexual parade in long beach. it was a tasteful float with naked hetrosexual men and women engaging in missionary sex,,,,and it was banned from the parade,,,,what do you think, need some new clients
I will happily represent you and your friends for an exorbitant fee. Are you open to a negotiated compromise, though? Add one more man to the depiction and I think I could get it approved without resort to a lawsuit.
long beach gay/queer/birkenstock/metrosexual/gun-toting redneck
if you sell the concept to nbc as a pilot for next year, i will split the creative fee with you
Let me be the one politically incorrect enough to say this: Communist Vietnam definitely discriminates against gays. Maybe these parade organizers need to go back to Communist Vietnam, where they could fit right in.
ALSO:
https://www.facebook.com/events/124116254430781/
Sunday morning at 8:30 – 9200 Bolsa Avenue, Westminster, Asian Garden Mall Front –
Rain or shine, allowed or not! The Viet LGBTs and Allies will celebrate with the Vietnamese community at the parade. That includes us HONORARY gay HONORARY Viets!
Still waiting for a statement from Loretta Sanchez, who never misses the Tet Festival (although it’s now outside of her district.)
BOLSAVIK, unsurprisingly, has the best and most comprehensive piece on this, out today….
“Against tradition, Tet Parade excludes LGBT Viets.
“For at least 100 years, it has been a tradition of Southern Vietnam on every Tet (Lunar New Year) to pay homage to a gay general of the Nguyen dynasty.
“Against that tradition, though, the organizers of this weekend’s Tet Parade sought to not allow a contingency of LGBT Vietnamese to participate in the parade, something they have done for three years straight already. The parade is held with a permit from the City of Westminster, which granted it the exclusive use of public streets for the duration of the event.
“Apparently aware that this sort of discrimination could get them all personally sued…”
Read the rest. Bolsavik has tracked down the homophobic Viet preacher behind all this, and he’ll tell you more about this ancient gay Viet general.
http://bolsavik.com/2013/02/against-tradition-lgbt-viets-excluded-from-tet-parade/
According to the photo in the link below, the Vietnamese government is considering legalizing marriage equality.
http://mx.noticias.yahoo.com/fotos/los-ganadores-del-world-press-photo-slideshow/wpp16-%C3%A1msterdam-holanda-15-02-2013-imagen-tomada-photo-150239417.html