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I predict Art Pedroza re-registers as a Democrat in less than 12 months.
Next thing you, Art will be plumping for CenterLine and defending PLAs.
Matt,
Backing public transit does not make you a Democrat. And buses are not Centerline, which I opposed. I also recently opposed my City Council when they voted for the idiotic Orangeline idea.
I will never again join a political party. They are the problem, not the solution.
Nor will I ever support the concept of PLAs. They are an injustice.
I take it Amante is a friend of yours? Figures.
Art,
Think you missed the point of Jerry’s editorial. Jerry has been a supporter of MetroLink and increasing efficencies of bus services and routes. But like most of OC has refused to spend wildly on “trains to nowhere”!
Just as you so well laid out in the case of Orangeline not all trains/mag-lev’s/lightrails/buses are created equal.
Anybody who has ridden (and I have for years) Blue/Green/Red/Gold and MetroLink will tell you the results are varied. Blue and Gold suck! Green and Red which utilize underground and mid-freeway designs work very well. MetroLink while over subsidized is a good start because of alignment with 5 corridor.
I belive high-speed rail or Mag-lev technologies are less of an issue than where will the train take us, and is the value proposition good enough to get people out of cars while not tearing up our neighborhoods?
If you ride the Blue line you will note that all LA County did was replace cheap buses with expensive rail that interferes with local at-grade traffic. Those are the mistakes that Jerry and most of the OCTA board opposes!
Jerry Amante is a great councilman and conservative. We are lucky to have him on OCTA.
You misconstrue what Jerry is talking about and instead of seeking anything remotely resembling an intelligent dialogue, you poke Jerry in the eye because that’s your idea of what blogging is all about.
You might do a little research, Art. Public transit consists of much more than buses.
You might call Jerry and talk to him yourself. He’s very accessible.
Or you can lob grenades from the safety of your keyboard.
Matt,
Rail has its place in the transit equation. I opposed Centerline because it was ridiculous, and Orangeline because it is impractical and will never be built.
As poster #3 indicated, the green and red lines are working quite well, in L.A.
The problem with too many conservatives is that they oppose all public transit, or most of it.
Remember what happened during the OCTA bus strike? Most of you Reeps were calling for the privatization of the buses, and/or the dissolution of the bus service altogether. Typical.
I don’t know Amante, but if you vouch for him, that can’t be good.
I agree rail has role. So does Jerry Amante — which you would know if you had any idea what you are talking about.
But again, you’d rather poke him in the eye and make uninformed insinuations about people based on who they know and are friends with, rather than doing a little elementary research.
No one was calling for dissolution of the bus service. I think we ought to look into creating a transit marketplace by eliminating barriers to entry for people to provide transit services. I’d think you’d support that since it would benefit immigrant entrepreneurs, but you’re too wrapped up in your prejudices to consider the notion.