Dominionism, Sarah Palin & the Christian Taliban

SMS,

Actually, the Bible commands us to “Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s” (Matthew 22:21) and also to “Obey your leaders and submit to their authority”. So your reading of what the Bible teaches is inaccurate. Dominionism is a theology created to fit a person’s preconceived notions and political agenda.

That said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Christians engaging in public life and “speaking truth to power”. MLK is a shining example of movement that sprang out of the Christian church and inspired positive changes in civil rights. When a Christians engages in such a way, it doesn’t NECESSARILY mean they want to promote Dominionism.

Besides the fact that is whole discussion of Palin infant child, is a little off track with the subject…

Some of you sure do make me sick.

How can you look in the mirror and be ok with who you are?

The logic!?! Are you serious? It sounds asinine to me! She could have had a perfectly healthy baby as well? I have had several aunts who had babies after 40 who were perfectly healthy.

If you are pro choice how can you condemn a woman for making the choice to keep a child who is not perfectly healthy.So when you have a DS baby they should just be aborted? Or wait she is over 40 she shouldn’t be aloud to have children? That makes sense right. How any mother could condemn another for loving and keeping her child is sickening.

And before you bash me for being a conservative blah blah blah. You can shut it, I am Republican and I am pro choice! And guess what? That choice goes both ways.

There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse—when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be unwelcome—others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to justify partisan ends.

BARACK OBAMA, Audacity of Hope
http://www.notable-quotes.com/o/obama_barack.html

Here are some more “Dominionists” for everyone to fret about:

Thomas Jefferson: “The practice of morality being necessary for the well-being of society, [God] has taken care to impress its precepts so indelibly on our hearts that they shall not be effaced by the subtleties of our brain. We all agree in the obligation of the moral precepts of Jesus, and nowhere will they be found delivered in greater purity than in his discourses.”

Will Rogers: “If the Bolsheviks say that religion was holding the people back from progress, why, let it hold them back. Progress ain’t selling that high. If it is, it ain’t worth it. … They picked the only one thing I know of to suppress that is absolutely necessary to run a Country on, and that is Religion.”

Chief Justice Earl Warren: “I believe no one can read the history of our country without realizing that the Good Book and the spirit of the Saviour have from the beginning been our guiding geniuses. … Whether we look to the first Charter of Virginia … or to the Charter of New England … or to the Charter of Massachusetts Bay … or to the Fundamental Orders of Connecticut … the same objective is present: a Christian land governed by Christian principles. … I believe the entire Bill of Rights came into being because of the knowledge our forefathers had of the Bible and their belief in it: freedom of belief, of expression, of assembly, of petition, the dignity of the individual, the sanctity of the home, equal justice under law, and the reservation of powers to the people. … I like to believe we are living today in the spirit of the Christian religion. I like also to believe that as long as we do so, no great harm can come to our country.”

Theodore Roosevelt: “There is no patent recipe for getting good citizenship. You get it by applying the old, old rules of decent conduct, the rules in accordance with which decent men have had to shape their lives from the beginning … fundamental precepts, put forth in the Bible and embodied consciously or unconsciously in the code of morals of every great and successful nation from antiquity to modern times. … You are not going to make any new commandments at this stage which will supply the place of the old ones. The truths that were true at the foot of Mt. Sinai are true now. The truths that were true when the Golden Rule was promulgated are true now. No man is a good citizen unless he so acts as to show that he actually uses the Ten Commandments, and translates the Golden Rule into his life conduct. I appeal for a study of the Bible on many different accounts, even aside from its ethical and moral teachings, even aside from the fact that all serious people, all men who think deeply, even among non-Christians, have come to agree that the life of Christ, as set forth in the four Gospels, represents an infinitely higher and purer morality than is preached in any other book of the world. … The teachings of the Bible are so interwoven and entwined with our whole civic and social life that it would be literally — I do not mean figuratively, I mean literally — impossible for us to figure to ourselves what that life would be if these teachings were removed. We would lose almost all the standards by which we now judge both public and private morals; all the standards toward which we, with more or less resolution, strive to raise ourselves.”

Harry Truman: “Men can build a good society, if they follow the will of the Lord. Our great Nation was founded on this faith. Our Constitution, and all our finest traditions, rest on a moral basis. We believe in the dignity and the rights of each individual. We believe that no person — and no group of people — has an inherent right to rule over any other person or any other group. … We are continuing to move forward every day toward greater freedom and equal opportunity for all citizens. This is a purpose each of us must strive to achieve, in his daily life, and in his own community. It is a purpose which, in some cases, requires collective action, through our elected representatives in local, State, and Federal governments.”

Abraham Lincoln: “Fondly do we hope, fervently do we pray, that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue until all the wealth piled by the bondsman’s 250 years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said 3,000 years ago, so still it must be said: ‘The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.’ ”

Those words from Lincoln’s Second Inaugural Address are counted as among the finest in our heritage. Yet they embrace three concepts much sneered at in liberal circles today: that justice requires retribution, that ancient Scriptures are relevant to modern issues, and that our country, along with all others, is subject to God’s authority.

I leave it to any rational reader to discern whether Sarah Palin, or her dyspeptic “Jesusgasms,” “Christian Taliban” detractor, is more in sync with the sentiments expressed by Jefferson, Rogers, Warren, Roosevelt, Truman and Lincoln as quoted above. (chapter and verse may be found at http://www.fairamendment.us/Crime,%20Realignment%20and%20the%20Will%20Rogers%20Republican.htm#note%2031, or, in the case of Earl Warren, at Yo! Liberals! You Call This Progress?, Chapter 23, available for purchase here: http://www.fairamendment.us/contact1.htm).

Karl Spence

I find it remarkable to see that, even with the glib and glossy packaging, the reconstructionists are so similar to the Islamic fundamentalists that the wars that we are fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan can now be looked at as holy wars…religious crusades that at least the Islamists recognize and we should recognize really soon. The motives of the American right wing seemed to be cloudy to me at first but now they are crystal clear. Both are seriously wrong. What do you do when you are in the middle?

WHat will happen when Bin Laden finally realizes that he can achieve his goal of Global Talibanism by joining forces with the GOP? Osama Bin Laden could easily court the GOP because Bin Ladens complaints against the West are the exact same complaints Christo-Taliban members have against the West. Bin Laden will wake up to this prospect, and he will lavish praise on US neocons, encourage them to overthrow the liberal democracy and create a brutal murderous ultra authoritarian one world government. OBL will realize how easy it would be to get neocons onto his side, because they already are, they just blaspheme a different bible to promote their goals.