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Interview of Dale Tyler, Mission Viejo recall candidate

Dale Tyler

Who will you support to replace Mission Viejo Councilman Lance MacLean?

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I just concluded a 90 minute interview of Mission Viejo recall candidate Dale Tyler.

Background for this post. The election to recall Mission Viejo vice mayor Lance MacLean will occur on February 2, 2010.

There will only be two names on the ballot to select from.  Dem. Dave Leckness, whom I interviewed  on November 9th and Rep. Dale Tyler whom I just interviewed.
Let me preface the Q & A with the following information.

Unlike many interviews where questionnaires are sent to every candidate who is then given one or two weeks to respond, I did not share any of my questions in advance with either of them.

Although I asked Dale many more questions than Dave Leckness, neither of them had a clue as to what I planned to ask nor today’s listing which follows below.

LG. First question. Having been a Mission Viejo resident for over 20 years what participation, if any, have you had in any of our prior city council elections?

DT.  I have been involved in every Mission Viejo election over the past 10 years starting with JP in 1998 and Trish, JP and Lance in 2002, to Gail in 2004 and other candidates.

LG. Are you involved in any local organizations? If so, which ones?

DT. The Saddleback Republican Assembly, CIG, (the Committee for Integrity in Government), and DHS (Drivers for Highway Safety).

LG. Although you just filed your nominating papers, what endorsements have you been able to get for this Feb. Special election?

DT. I have not sought any for this election. I was endorsed by the Saddleback Republican Assembly

LG. Of the 8 charges against Lance MacLean which do you feel are the most egregious and why?

DT. Lifetime medical benefits..doubling his  salary..disrespecting voters.. Measure K (a proposed tax increase promoted by Lance)

LG. Lance and several residents have stated that he is not the only one responsible for those decisions. How do you respond to those remarks?

DT. You are accountable for your own decisions. The fact that others may have voted for it doesn’t change your vote. Lance made either the Motion or provided the Second on many of these issues.

LG. Aside from Lance, Frank and Trish can any future council members qualify for the same $270,000 lifetime health care benefits that they each voted for?

DT. As of today the answer is NO.

LG. If Lance were to get reelected in Nov. would he qualify for that benefit?

DT. YES.

LG. What do you feel are the largest issues facing the city today?

DT. Lifetime medical benefits..doubling council salary and out of control spending that is a longer term process

LG. What recommendations would you bring forward to address them?

DT. Immediately revoke lifetime medical benefits and rollback pay increase

LG. In your candidate statement you reference projects that end up 200% to 300% over budget. Can you be more specific?

DT. The Murray Center, City Hall and the Montanoso renovation

LG. You also wish to promote a more open government. Can you give us some examples where our government has not been open? What changes would you recommend?

DT.  Documentation requests. The data on the electronic sign was laughably incomplete.. the same answer for the costs and subsequent destruction of easels. I would give the city clerk more power to put teeth in Public Records requests and demand compliance from uncompliant employees.
Strictly limit matters in Closed Session to those that are unambiguously permitted by the Brown Act.

LG. A lot has been said about the Casta Golf Course being converted for housing. Is the city Moratorium on this property still in effect and, if so, when does that Moratorium expire?

DT. I believe it is still in effect until February..not sure. Even if they set a date certain, it could be terminated early

LG. What is the Right To Vote Initiative and what was your role in the that effort?

DT. I developed the wording in the Ordinance based on Yorba Linda’s Ordinance and campaigned getting signatures. The Initiative is a means for the citizens to gain control of major planning  and zoning decisions

LG. When is that Initiative to appear on a Mission Viejo ballot?

DT. It will be on the regular June 2010 ballot

LG. Does it require a simple majority or 2/3rds for passage of the Initiative?

DT. A simple majority

LG. Same question for major development projects should the Initiative pass.

DT. A simple majority

LG. Can the current owner sell that golf course property in whole or in part today?

DT. Yes, subject to any deed restrictions

LG. How is the Casta golf course property zoned?

DT. Open space

LG.  Without the Right to Vote Initiative what would it require to change that zoning to residential usage?

DT. Three votes

LG. If the Right to Vote Initiative is approved, what are the trigger points for that potential voter participation?

DT. Major zoning changes to parcels in our city. I am not opposed to using property  as currently zoned and will encourage it

LG. In your candidate statement it reads that you want to “require city budgets to be balanced every year.” Aren’t our budgets balanced or is that balance only accomplished by taking money from our reserves?

DT. I believe today’s budget is balanced  by accounting tricks and don’t reflect the actual fiscal state of the city

LG. Another area in your candidate statement says that you want to stop self-enrichment. Can you provide any examples of that remark?

DT. Lifetime medical benefits…doubling your own salary

LG. Recreation has always been a major reason why many families move to Mission Viejo. Were you involved in the 2002-03 effort to save the Sierra Recreation Center?

DT. Yes

LG. Do you support our city’s recreation programs?

DT. I do

LG. Do you support the $4 million expansion of the Marguerite Tennis Center as proposed?

DT. No.

LG. Why not?

DT. It’s $4 million dollars for approximately 150 residents

LG. A recent hot issue in Mission Viejo is the location and cost of a dog park. Do you support that future CIP?

DT. YES. I believe we should have a dog park in our city that is reasonably priced that is away from homes, schools and parks

LG. How much should we spend and where would you recommend that it be located?

DT. Other cities have built dog parks for less than $100,000. I would support a siting process that includeds input form every home and business within 2,000 to 5,000 feet of the proposed site.

LG. Due to the current recession in the construction industry we have not moved forward with any new housing start including the state mandated 94 low and super low income affordable units. Where would you prefer that the shortfall be located?

DT. A number of locations have been given special zoning, including density bonuses. It’s up to the developers. The city doesn’t build the units

LG. Would you promote placing all of them in one project or spread around the city?

DT. We’re done. The RENA allocations could be fully satisfied by the zoning made by the current council

LG. Would you support a new school District in Mission Viejo as some parents and council members have been promoting?

DT. It appears to me that the complexity of creating a Mission Viejo only school district far out weigh the benefits. However, if it could be done in a  revenue neutral and site neutral school site I could support it

LG. The current city council has filed lawsuits against both of our school districts. Do you support either of those actions?

DT. I don’t see the point of either action. Any disputes could have been resolved out of court.

LG. A recent request was made by a member of the Mallorca HOA Board of Directors for the city to spend around $500,000 in taxpayer funds to upgrade their private slopes. How do you feel when discovering that over $one million dollars, 28%, was removed from our infrastructure budget for roads and medians?

DT. I think its’ inappropriate for the city to maintain private property. That the city council failed to maintain city property while spending foolishly on things like the Rose Bowl Float and decorating medians on Crown Valley Parkway is simply outrageous.

LG. Let’s address the 700 pound gorilla in this election.

Without providing any names a hit piece and your challenger allege that someone wants to fire staff members, privatize the library and animal shelter, reduce the number of sheriff deputies, get rid of the Kids factory and school crossing guards.

Here is your chance to respond to these charges.

LG. Do you wish to privatize the library?  YES, or NO?

DT. NO

LG. Do you wish to privatize the animal shelter? YES, or NO?

DT. NO

LG. Are you familiar with the Kids Factory program?

DT. Yes, I believe its an after school program

LG. Do you want to get rid of the Kids Factory? YES, or NO?

DT. NO

LG. Another general comment relates to our OCSD Contract. Do you want to reduce the number of sworn deputies serving our city?

DT. NO

LG. How about our SRO’s. Do you wish to reduce the number of our school resources officers?

DT. NO

LG. What is your opinion of the taxpayer funded MV Community Foundation?

DT. The Foundation has failed to live up to its promise to raise funds for various city projects

LG. At what point, if any, do you feel the city should support an entry in the Tournament of Roses Parade? And if so, how much should be spent and funded by whom?

DT. Any time the businesses in Mission Viejo  want to enter a Rose Parade Float I would applaud their efforts. However, the City of Mission Viejo should not spend another dime

LG. Final questions. As this election will be decided in the next 2 and a half months are you utilizing a professional campaign manager?

DT.  NO

LG. What is your campaign budget for this election?

DT. We are going to spend whatever it takes to win.

Note: This exchange took place between 12:30 and 2 p.m. today at Denny’s restaurant on Alicia Parkway in Mission Viejo.




75 comments to Interview of Dale Tyler, Mission Viejo recall candidate

  • 51
    Back To Basics says:

    This blog has been terrific at exposing information. Maybe Leckness isn’t aware of what his backers are doing to him, but it is horrendous. Their comments make me think they are mentally ill.

    About the school district, when everyone sees what it would cost, the discussion will end. I am just in awe that the discussion has gone on this long with no mention of cost or the damages the two existing school districts would incur.

  • 52
    Larry Gilbert says:

    Gilbert update.

    As promised I have now looked at both of the recall candidates web sites. You too can verify my analysis which follows:

    Dale Tyler is using dale4mv.com

    Dave Leckness is using dave4citycouncil.com

    I need to be cautious as the only difference in their first names is a single letter. As such I had better not give one credit for the other.

    Dave’s web site contains a good overview of his family and business.
    As stated previously, for some unexplained reason, he only shares the “feel good” part of his candidate statement.
    Other than that he only has a general comment on the city including our being recognized as the safest city in CA for which neither candidate can take credit.

    While Dave’s web site claims “There is a lot of differences between my positions and those of the other guy on the ballot.” he fails to provide any form of confirmation of that remark.
    Dave. Be specific. What positions are you referring to and how can you substantiate that broad brush commentary?

    Dale’s web site contains a Nov 17th “press release” regarding his completing the filing process. In that document it does mention some of his local activities pointing out shortcomings of Lance MacLean.
    What voters want to see and read is his thoughts on retaining our quality of life.

    To critique their web sites I would opine that both candidates fail to provide Position Papers on what they perceive to be the key issues of our city and their strategy for addressing them.
    And for those who said I looked at Dale’s web site to create my questions my response is simple.
    Having assisted every current member of this city council get elected as challengers, I am very aware of the issues that they have been required to confront.
    Not boasting but I do not need to check anyone’s web site for background data. Simply adding this comment to making sure that the record is accurate.
    As this post is my interview of Mr. Tyler I will add this same commentary to the prior interview of Mr. Leckness

  • 53
    Carl Jokinen says:

    What is the present salary of council members after the increase?

  • 54

    Good Lord, Larry…you call that comparing the two web sites? You didn’t even mention Dale’s site and how it looks like a 3rd grader put it together one rainy Saturday morning. Of course, the slipshod nature of it is understandable, given the slipshod nature of his bookkeeping for the recall campaign and how he had to revise the first filing and was over six weeks late on the second because they both showed he broke campaign law. I thought Dale was some sort of computer Guru, but I guess when you’re busying talking to the Orange County District Attorney and the folks from the Secretary of State’s office, and the people from FPPC, you might not have a whole lot of time to devote to the web site. So what is he telling those law enforcement types anyway? That he was confused? That he didn’t bother to read the law clearly printed on the back of the petition forms? Every page on the back of it? And why don’t you report on that story? I noticed they immediately had you writing about global warming in China. Bet you’re an expert on that. Uh huh…Hey have Dale or Connie given you up yet? Just a matter of time Larry. A matter of time…

  • 55

    Oh and by the way Larry…when you censor someone but not your own comments in response to them, you end up looking like a giant moron. Just sayin….

  • 56
    Art Pedroza says:

    Dan Avery,

    You know who is looking like a complete a-hole? You are. Just so the readers know, I gave you the ability to post here, as an author, so you could put up your side of the story.

    Guess what readers? Dan blew us off! He rather come in here and snipe at Larry. Figures.

    As far as I can tell, Dan has nothing of substance to say. He defends Lance but never explains why. It is a good question. Why would a supposed progressive defend the likes of Lance MacLean?

    Well Dan, you blew it. I have bumped you back down to reader status. And if Larry wants to delete your insufferable comments when they are not germane to the posts in question, that is his right.

    You had a chance to tell your story. You decided not to. Some would call that a cowardly act. Larry at least has the balls to come on here and explain his views on a daily basis.

    Tell us Dan. Why the man-love for MacLean?

  • 57
    Raquel Ford says:

    I agree with your comments Mr Art Pedroza, thank you.

  • 58

    Actually I don’t support MacLean, but you know that Art. My position has always been clear. The recall makes no sense unless you look at it as an attempt to undermine our system of elected representation. That I am against and people like you and Larry who champion it disgust me. The recall committee is being investigated seriously by several different levels from the county DA to the Secretary of State’s office. To defend Tyler and Lee at this point is pointless, but you clowns continue to bang that drum. You did not offer me a blog, Art. You said I could write something and it would be held until you approved it. Nice try but I am not stupid.

  • 59

    Hey Art, I do have one question you can answer. It’s a simple one. Do you consider this site to be a public forum?

  • 60
    Art Pedroza says:

    Dan,

    It’s a blog. A feature of blogs is the ability to make comments. We filter those for curse words but also for comments that don’t stay on topic or that are outright spam.

    You had your shot at blogging here – on one of the top political blogs in the state. You blew it. That’s on you.

    And for the record, I have no position on the recall of Lance MacLean. I don’t live in MV. But MacLean seems like an ass who is worthy of recall.

    The argument that he should not be recalled due to the expense doesn’t hold water. We should not have rebelled against the British back in the day, that cost a lot too. And taking out Hitler was a wee bit expensive. Maybe we should have stayed home?

    There are times when the public good demands the ouster of villains. This seems like one of those times. Why you would side with the villain is puzzling to say the least. Vern says you are a progressive. There is nothing remotely progressive about Lance MacLean, unless you think that voting himself lifetime healthcare at your expense was progressive.

  • 61
    The Insufferable Dan Avery says:

    I am not a “progressive.” Progressives are people who are afraid of being liberal. I am a liberal. A Hubert Humphrey Liberal. Humphrey argued for Nationalized Health Care in the 1930’s. I’m that kind of liberal. And as I have said in plain English I do not side with Lance. I detest the undermining of democracy that recalls are. If Lance needed to be recalled so badly then why did Tyler and Lee have to break multiple laws to do get enough signatures?

    As far as blowing writing for your blog, Art. Not a big deal. I have a blog at Salon.com that has a national audience. There were two reasons you gave me that offer. Your sharper readers knew I wouldn’t fall for the first so now you’re using the second one.

  • 62
    The Insufferable Dan Avery says:

    Oh and by the way, I never argued the expense argument. Mine has always been it’s just an attempt to nullify a legal election and put Dale on the council. It’s funny how you and Pillbert never address my argument but constantly invent another one and attack that. Pretty telling. I bet the failure to address my argument has helped add to those who realize the recall is dirty politics at its worst.

  • 63
    Art Pedroza says:

    Dan,

    Hate to burst your bubble but most folks in MV could care less about whatever you write at Salon.com.

    If you have a problem with recalls in general then you should be doing something to make them illegal.

    I don’t see what your issue is. MacLean clearly misrepresented himself to the voters. Had they known what sort of person he really is I doubt they would have elected him.

    In the end it will be up to the voters to recall him. What could be more democratic than that?

    And it will be up to the voters to replace him. Again, that is the essence of democracy.

    Recalls do not undermine democracy. They give voters the chance to get rid of jerks who lie to them to get elected then turn out to be miscreants.

    If not for recalls we would be suck with these awful politicians with no recourse to get rid of them until the next election. Maybe that is OK with you.

    As for whether or not you are a progressive or a liberal, I consider you to be wrong no matter what you want to call yourself. But you’re right about being insufferable…

  • 64
    Larry Gilbert says:

    Dan, Dan Dan.

    Why is it so difficult for you to stay on point.
    From your multiple comments on my Juice posts you have spoken to the OC DA and the CA Attorney General, the FPPC, CA Sec. of State, US Attorney General Eric Holder and probably president Obama about the RECALL Petitions.

    Please refrain from spamming the same song until you have a written response with action being taken and residents being hauled off to court. If that were to occur we will write a post on that topic. Not only are you embarrassing yourself you are getting very close to the edge of our patience. And let me remind Juice readers that your bride Victoria is Treasurer of Dave Leckness’s campaign, the only other candidate in the race to recall Lance MacLean. I might ask you to recuse yourself from any further comments on the recall election as that’s a conflict of interest but will not take that action against you as long as you have any new points to make that are on the post thread.
    This Tyler interview dates back to Nov 28th. For the past month you have continued to raise issues not related to that extensive interview yet we allowed you to add a plug for, and your addition of, a web site for Dave Leckness.

  • 65
    Art Pedroza says:

    Larry,

    Ruh roh! Dan’s honey is making money off all of this? Priceless.

    Maybe she’s not sharing with Dan? He sounds rather bitter…

    And yes indeed this means he has a HUGE conflict of interest. That figures!

  • 66
    Spirit Cat says:

    After reading these threads one can only conclude Dan is unbalanced!!!

  • 67
    Larry Gilbert says:

    Spirit.
    Everyone adding comments has their own opinion. That being said, your remark has zero to do with my Nov interview of Dale Tyler. Some day, way out in the future, some of our newer readers will understand the rules and stay on our threads.
    Considering all of our coverage of the MV recall election, while its impossible to satisfy every reader, has surely provided multiple posts for which your comments are welcome.

  • 68
    Robert Johnson says:

    Larry,
    Any chance you’ll follow up on Tyler’s residency claim. I mean, he could very well be a resident for the past twenty years but I would like to know why his vehicles have had Indiana License Plates on them for the past three. Both cars recently renewed. If this guy is going to be in office, isn’t his integrity already an issue.

  • 69
    Larry Gilbert says:

    Robert. There is no question about Dale’s residency.
    Before accepting what others may say perhaps you should contact Dale.
    Did you try before adding your comment or is it simply based on the photo which we have each received?
    The Ford truck is owned by an Indiana Corporation, is leased to Dale, and has been back and forth to Indiana several times. It is currently being stored here. The Mercedez was stored in Indiana and has gone back and forth. His most recent vehicle was purchased in CA and has CA plates, however that vehicle was not included in the photos for some unexplained reason. Perhaps you might ask Frank Ury and Trish Kelley about that oversight.
    Dale advises me that he has been in contact with the CHP regarding the tags on these vehicles and that he has no problems with their multiple state location usage.

  • 70
    Robert Johnson says:

    Geez, Calm down Larry, take your medication. I merely asked a question. I just figured since you spoke to the man that perhaps you would have access to the answer. I don’t know the guy but wanted to know since I am a resident of mission viejo and want to make sure my elected officials are following the law. Do you have an issue with that? Or is that you would look the other way as long as the guy you want is in office? Try and stay on track and be fair to everyone.

  • 71
    CASSAUNDRA says:

    I JUST HOPE THERE IS A WAY TO RID OUR CITY OF THESE UNDER-EDUCATED PERSONS! How can we be proud of a city council that decorates our streets with camel dung brick covering and plastic planters, poster art that resembles advertising, and seems to sling mud at every turn?
    And- Lance- what the heck were you thinking- pulling an insurance scam on all of our citizens? And- who voted in favor of this grand larceny? Can we get rid of ALL of them? Seems like a city could find honest people to actually run the things efficiently, and with concious effort to better maintain our formerly beautiful, classy city. Not moving on- staying to see these people removed! Quite Sincerely!

  • 72
    Larry Gilbert says:

    Cassaundra
    Can you please stay on the topic of our posts.
    In this case do you have an opinion on my interview of Dale Tyler and his responses? You can also chime in on other comments as well as my own replies.

    While I agree that the art in the new pilasters along Crown Valley and Marguerite Parkways is a hazard to drivers who may take their eyes off the highly used major arterials, that is not directly related to the two competing replacement candidates.
    We just passed a law that your use of cell phones must be “hands free” yet its OK for you to look away from the road to look at “works of art” on the side of these roads or in the medians where, for a split second look, you might create a serious accident.
    Great way to retain BRAGGING RIGHTS with our being “the safest city in CA.”
    Perhaps they refer to crime rather than motor vehicle accidents.

  • 73
    debbie says:

    Larry,

    Was quite shocked that you didn’t get up to support “your recall cause” at the counsel meeting last night. Your an idiot. If you don’t like the way Mission Viejo is….I have one word…….MOVE!!! It would be a better place if you did!! Oh and take that low life Dale with you!

  • 74
    sutka says:

    Mr. Tyler:
    California law requires you register your vehicles in this state within 10 days of residency. As for one of your vehicles being registered to a leasing company in another state, You are the driver / operator, living in this state. The plates must be California plates, PERIOD. That is the law. I’m not sure what “driven back and forth” means. You use California roads, you pay your registration in this state to use your vehicles on these roads. Now, I do like your ideas on the medical issues. I am also a big proponent of having a part-time California legislator. M.V., as well as any city can operator on a part-time, all volunteer council. Cities don’t need full time council members. There should be no compensation given to these “public volunteers”. It should be 100% volunteer council. That’s how you know where everyone’s interest is. When they offer their time without expecting a retirement out of it.

  • 75
    Larry Gilbert says:

    Sutka. Mr Tyler does not live here.
    That said, as the author of this post, he and I have had discussion on this issue.
    All that I can add is that I drove by his home recently and did see a vehicle in his driveway with CA tags. The election is over. His car has CA tags and I move on.

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