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Recall Benedict Arnold

Terry Crowley posted this in BHO's, Fresh Juice, Recall Arnold, Terry Crowley, california budget, car tax, democracy, democrats, economy on February 20th, 2009

It’s time to get this ball rolling again. I am going to put in some phone calls. I was Darrell Issa’s Orange County Rep for his Senate race. Maybe he’ll pony up the money again? Andy Garakhani, are you out there? After all, Ahhhnold has done everything that got Gray Davis recalled, and worse.

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What’s that you say? Not enough of an outcry. The so called moderates and Democrats wouldnt bother evicting this Republican because, well, because he behaves just like THEM!

- Sales taxes raised by one percentage point

- Additional 5% surcharge on state income taxes.

- Increase in the vehicle-license fee from 0.65% to 1.15%.
Do you understand your CAR TAX is going to almost DOUBLE! UNDER ARNOLD!!

- $15 billion reduction in government spending, including $8.6 billion from education.

- Elimination of two state holidays

Perhaps Democrats can be talked into joining the Arnold Jihad. All those stimulus dollars promised to California taxpayers are going to be eaten by this tax hike. Arnold has just taken the money Obama promised you. That $13 a week and change – gone!

Gary Coleman and Mary Carey! Where are you???

20 comments to Recall Benedict Arnold

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the great one says:

February 20, 2009 at 8:16 am

yes kick him out and any others that voted for this the highest tax increase in the history of the u.s.a no joke . people are going to leave the state . less revenues less jobs . we are taxed to death in this state no one can make some money . renember he was going to blow up the boxes . he sure did . recall him now . but you also got to get rid of and fire and not relect these same clowns year after year BOTH PARTIES .

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cook says:

February 20, 2009 at 10:54 am

I haven’t read the text of the latest increase.

So maybe someone can post how much was cut from the top, before the increases at the bottom were heaped upon the taxpayers?

After Arnold signs the bill into law, he will have shown that he was not the person for that office.

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 11:43 am

So, recalling Davis didn’t get you anything. Anybody with a clue (which obviously didn’t include Mr. Issa) knew that then. It was nothing more than a publicity stunt. I am sure Mr. Davis is laughing at you guys now.
Recalling Schwarzenegger won’t get you anything, either. It would just make you guys look even more stupid.

The problem, as people of the caliber of Warren Buffett know, is Prop. 13. Recall that.
Until Prop. 13 is repealed, every governor of California will have problems with the budget.
Prop 13 had good intentions, but good intentions is the opposite of good.

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cook says:

February 20, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Joe, there is nothing stopping you from giving the state of California more of your money. You have the right to pay higher taxes.

Do not take the tax credits on your tax return. Tax credits are special loop-holes.

Do not take deductions on your tax return. Tax deductions are special loop-holes.

If you are married? File 2 married separate returns (prop no need to get a better tax deal than gays, right?

And if you still feel you have not paid enough, go to line 49 on your California return and write in the amount that you can borrow against your house to make up your unearned share of prop. 13.

I love it that the legislator did not cut one penny of their special tax breaks, non-taxable benefits, Base pay, office expenses allowance (100 grand a year?), auto allowances, and all the money they get in political campaign donations is 100 percent tax free party to the max fun money.

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Larry Gilbert says:

February 20, 2009 at 12:56 pm

Terry.
It must be a small world. We supported Darrell Issa in his Congressional campaign when only MV Councilman John Paul Ledesma provided an endorsement against state Senator Bill Morrow. While we worked with Andy Gharakhani, Dale Neugebauer and political director Jason Miller, I do not recall meeting yourself. We need to talk off-line on your idea.

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Larry Gilbert says:

February 20, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Joe. Give it up already. Stop blaming Prop 13 for every financial shortfall in our state. Perhaps you can justify our budget going from $105.4 billion in 2004-05 to $131.6 billion in 2008-09?

FYI Our state population in July 2007 is reported at 36,553,215 and in July 2004 at 35,893,799, or less than one million new residents in those 3 years.

By the way our General Fund in 2004-05 was $78.7 billion and in 2008-09 it increased to $103.4
So while our population grew around 3% our General Fund increased by over 31%.
No, no matter how often and how loud you shout, Prop 13 is not the problem. Big government and questionable programs is the culprit that we must all address.

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Cook, so you apparently want bridges to fall down when you drive over them.
You are obviously rather clueless.

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the great one says:

February 20, 2009 at 2:06 pm

i thought we where all on the same page on this one . opps i was wrong IT HAD TO BE MR TAX INCREASE LITTLE JOE . joe then you pay for all the stupid programs we have .

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Sean H. Mill says:

February 20, 2009 at 2:10 pm

“joe then you pay for all the stupid programs we have”

Which stupid programs?

Schools?

Public safety?

Roads?

Prisons?

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 3:51 pm

Oh, and cook, and the little one, you guys apparently also don’t want police officers to protect you, or firefighters to come to your house if it catches fire?
All these are just “stupid programs” that taxes are paying for. All these are just “stupid programs” that you apparently think we can do without.
It is of course typical for clueless Republicans like you to want tax cuts, but immediately starting to scream for more police and more prisons if there is yet another shooting.
Having a brain and using it seems to be a problem for anti-tax idiots like you.
Get an education for a change. You need it. It helps to understand how things work.

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the great one says:

February 20, 2009 at 4:03 pm

how many more schools 51 percent of our budget has to go to schools do you guys want 60 maybe 70 how much more $$$ do you need . i am for cops public safety , roads and i know those cost money but you dont seem to understand that we have a SPENDING PROBLEM IN THIS STATE . but i guess your stevie wonder eyes dont get it .

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duplojohn says:

February 20, 2009 at 4:10 pm

Joe’s original post was “spot on”. These so called activists that worked to recall Gray Davis and (with the help of NBC, Clear Channel and Wealthy car dealers) got what they wanted. Governor Schwarznegger.

The lesson to be learned is you can’t take back your vote, it is a privledge rife with responsibility. It says a lot about a person who watched Arnold, host demolition derby’s, yell about “blowing up the boxes”, or my favoriteuse his own money to finance his political carreer.

EDUCATE YOURSELVES. Oh yeahm, and watch how John and Ken abandon this guy like rats on a sinking ship.

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 5:10 pm

The little one: Move to Santa Ana. You can see here first-hand what it means to have a police force that is underfunded. A “spending problem”… Yeah right. If you want to cut taxes, start in your own community. Get rid of police, firefighters, schools in your community. Then you may have a point. Until then, you are just all hat and no cattle. But we knew that already.

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 5:13 pm

Larry,
Even Warren Buffett stated that Prop. 13 was a bad thing.
That man knows a bit about money. Quite a bit more than you, I assert.
Prop. 13 was a disaster and is to a large extent the cause of the budget crisis.
Putting your head in the sand doesn’t change that.
Eventually you guys have to face reality.

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cook says:

February 20, 2009 at 5:36 pm

Maybe we are not talking about the same thing Joe,

In Santa Ana where I be, our local taxes pay for the police and fire departments, so these tax increases for the state won’t affect local public safety.

All I said was close the special interest loop-holes, and collect that tax instead.

And I said that the legislators needed to cut their excessive perks.

I am not sure what you mean by “tax cuts” I didn’t know there were cuts, I thought it was increases in taxes, borrowing and service cuts. (Pay more tax for less service)

But if paying more in taxes and getting less in service is your great dream? Knock yourself out, you have my permission to give the state all of your saving and assets and monies.

Enjoy less, you’ve earned it.

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THE GREAT ONE says:

February 20, 2009 at 7:05 pm

no little joe no thanks i would not move to santa ana if you paid me . the police are out gunned by gang bangers more n likely ILLEGALS . i guess your for the biggest tax hike in the HISTORY OF THE USA . i think you are on the wrong side of this issue . maybe instead of santa ana move to sacramento and join your tax raising buddies up there .

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Larry Gilbert says:

February 20, 2009 at 8:08 pm

Joe. I would wager with you that Warren Buffet lost more money than Larry Gilbert in 2008.

Stop dancing. You are avoiding my challenge. Nice try however.
Please justify the 31% increase in our General Fund when CA population only increased around 3% in the data and tim eframe which I found and posted.
You might also check out my latest post on HJTA’s plan to oppose the May 19th Special Election relating to the proposed tax increase.
Recall candidate Arnold provided some great (2003)sound bites that I included in my post comments.

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Terry Crowley says:

February 20, 2009 at 8:26 pm

Larry,

You can call me next week. Follow the links…

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 9:11 pm

“Joe. I would wager with you that Warren Buffet lost more money than Larry Gilbert in 2008.”
Yeah, and? He still has more clue about these things than you. And he still knows more about how bad Prop 13 is than you.
In fact, if Arnold had listened to him when he was running, he would most likely not have the budget problems he has today.
And your “challenge” is of course bogus and nothing more than a red herring. I don’t fall for such cheap shots. Better luck next time.

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Joe says:

February 20, 2009 at 9:18 pm

Larry,
“Joe. I would wager with you that Warren Buffet lost more money than Larry Gilbert in 2008.”

And one more thing: do you imply that people who didn’t lose money last year are better economists?
If so, anybody who doesn’t own a house and who didn’t invest in the stock market would know more about economic issues than you.
If you didn’t mean to say that, your statement is completely without meaning, in other words, completely senseless.
Nice try, though… Just like Prop. 13, tried and was a failure.

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