Santa Ana’s Usual Suspects want to lock Mexicans out of their trash cans!

Oh please! I’m Mexican, a resident of Wilshire and I’ve been at the Wilshire Square Assoc. meetings There are as many brown faces as white faces complaining about transients sifting through trash. It’s not about the stealing of the trash, but rather the mess they leave behind leaving the residents to pick up after them. I’m thankful that the city is FINALLY doing something about it.

Don’t play the race card here. Race has NOTHING to do with it.

I definitely don’t hate my own and have a lot of passion and respect for my culture. What I do hate is people making a mess of our city regardless of their color.

Apparently playing the race card makes you feel better.

Art,
You have a chip on your shoulder about your own race!!
Its ok that your brown, that’s what all us pasty white folks strive for !!

Give it up with the race shite, it is what allow’s wack job groups like ACLU able to get hard core gang members back on the street of santa ana and orange and believe me its not the pasty white folks they bother.

Really Breath, i think your skin colour is beautiful and mexicans are lovely.

Just as long as they are legal:)

I mean Grip!! Not Crip, thats Irish for chips

I am hunger for a taco!

I have an Idea!!

Why don’t you sean and Art go clean up mess that the underserved and vunerable leave behind and bring the people to your area/home and feed them!

Everyone happy:)

#14 perhaps you can have Thomas Gordon and his friends drop off the trash the next time they are out egging peoples homes.

Sean,

Your failure to understand the solution to the problems you see are found in your mistaken tendency to make your “government” your first line of defense to local problems, instead of the last.

The first, is YOU. You think there’s a problem, go out and HELP. Second is your family. Third is your CHURCH. Then your city, and your county. finally, in times of disaster, your federal government.

To argue that keeping people from scavenging in your trash and making a mess I have to clean up is “attacking”… the next step is finding someone on my couch who says they’re homeless and im “attacking” them by saying “get out”.

You abandon the rights of the law-abiding to make room for the lawless. Take your car and bring them to your neighborhood.

Most of you are missing the point. Trash haulers make money off of trash. If the valuable recyclables are removed, then so is part of the profit. The result is that the “cost” of trash service is increased and either the hauler (and its shareholders) or we, the ratepayers, will have to make up the difference in the long run. That is one good reason that ALL trash cans in the city should be locked up. Its simple economics. The trash is the property of the homeowner/renter until its picked up the the waste hauler. Until that transfer of property rights occurs, anyone else who injects him/herself into the stream is a thief. Its simple economics. For a so-called “libertarian” Art has lots to learn.

We forget that the poor (in Southern CA that translates as primarily Latino immigrants) were the original recyclers.
My grandparents could not bear to see anything go to waste. Junk mail envelopes became pads for messages and grocery lists. Plastic utensils were washed in hot soapy water and stored for another picnic. Grocery bags became free wastebasket liners. Shredded newsprint and food scraps went into the corner of the yard where, mixed with dry leaves and grass cuttings, they made rich soil in a few months. This was back in the 70s before people sorted their trash!
Gramps asked his neighbors to set aside their bottles and cans. He would take them squash and tomatoes from his garden in exchange. How very neighborly. He knew everyone on his street as a result. Got lots of exercise, and a few bucks in extra retirement income.
When my great-aunt was visiting from Mexico, she picked up a plastic spoon in the park, appalled that someone would discard a perfectly good spoon! It was beyond her comprehension. The spoon was washed, then used for the dog food until it broke. She taught me to punch small holes in the bottom of a take out cup and fill it with soil to start seedlings.
Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.
Sad that we’ve become a throw-away culture. It will come back to hurt our grandchildren.
And when I see the old man searching the trash can at the gas station for cans and bottles, I check my car for empty containers to hand him. And I think about how happy he will be when buying his grandchild a special treat. And maybe the ice cream man who sells him that treat will over time be able to afford his house payment as a result. One less foreclosure in the neighborhood.
That’s how it works.

is this the same neighborhood that encourages its residents to walk the neighborhood and turn in code violations?

Maybe if Tim Rush had gotten off his lazy ass and scavenged peoples trash for recyclables instead of ripping them off he wouldn’t be a convicted felon today.
Just a thought.

Why didn’t they say anything when the When the County Clerks office was selling the identities for a 1.00 a pop? Which came with driver’s license Numbers, alien identification numbers and addresses? If you didn’t have the money you could just write it down from the kiosk. Is it because these were business people that didn’t look like identity thieves?

The trash you put into the cart is your property until the truck comes by and picks it up.

Anyone getting into it for the purpose of taking stuff out is a petty thief.

There is no legal difference between someone taking stuff out of your trash, as compared to out of your car or out of your house. No one goes into my trash cause I recycle all myself and my can is full of dog poop.

But, also giving the city more power, or the only power, is going over board. Pick up the trash in and around your property, wash off, or paint over the graffiti and put pet waste on top, the punks and petty thieves will get the message and move on.

Well maybe if you people would put the recyclables in the gray can, they would have no reason to search the brown can. They could just empty the gray can into their carts.

curious,

If you want to give some little old lady your cans and bottles, put them I a box or bag and hand then over in person, why force her to go though your trash like a rat.

The complaint in the post was about people tossing trash all over yards and intimidating residences in the process. (no race card attached)

What the homeless need?

They pay no rent, their shelter is free, food and clothes are delivered daily so that is covered too. Medical costs, covered again. Drugs, booze or other personal vices, the county covers that with general assistance cash and food stamps (that are sold for cash).

What these people could really use is, a place to shower and go to the bathroom. So they can change their clothes and feel human again.

#39 (Cook). I like your idea. Set the recyclables aside. It’s the humane thing to do.

However, you do not understand what being homeless is like.

To #42……

I understand what your’re saying. And I certainly feel for the poor guy having to scavenge after a kidney transplant. This whole world is in a sorry state right now and I’m pretty sure that it won’t be fixed in our lifetimes. And regarding our state, I sort of imagine it to having people move into my house one by one for help……the money is only going to go so far. Once I’m out, I’m out. There are just too many people and not enough money. It’s a major predicament that as I said, probably won’t be much better in our lifetime.